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Conservatives Won't Win Elections by Refusing To Compromise
Townhall.com ^ | May 28, 2014 | Dr Ben Carson

Posted on 05/28/2014 6:28:32 PM PDT by Kaslin

More discussion on the topic of pragmatism and politics is critical. If conservatives decide to take their marbles and go home rather than fight to the bitter end because they feel their principles have been compromised, they will needlessly subject future generations to untold misery.

Voting for someone who agrees with you 90 percent of the time is far superior to voting for someone who disagrees with you 100 percent of the time. This is exactly what will happen if people refuse to exercise their civic duty and boycott elections because they feel betrayed. Personally, I am not supportive of abortion at all, but I can support people who feel differently if, in the gigantic scheme of things, they can help put an end to the murder of innocent babies. This is especially true of those who are personally inclined to save and protect life.

Perhaps an illustration is in order: Two armies are engaged in a war. Let's call the good army that is trying to defend an entire society the red army and the bad army that is trying to invade and pillage society the blue army. The blue army occupies a superior strategic position and is composed of slightly more troops, putting the red army at a distinct disadvantage. Some in the red army feel that they are right and, therefore, should simply march directly into battle with the blue army because right always wins.

Fortunately, some members of the red army are wise and have a better plan. They send a battalion of troops to the base of the mountain occupied by the blue army to distract them while the vast majority of red troops approach the mountain from the backside. They descend upon the blue army by surprise, completely vanquishing them and winning the war. The decoy red battalion may have sustained some casualties, but in the long run, the war was won, and the entire society was saved.

I hope this illustration is useful in helping some to understand that achieving a critical mass of conservatives and RINOs (Republicans in Name Only, as some call them) in office will ensure that we can get non-activist Supreme Court and federal judges in place who respect the U.S. Constitution. It is essential to achieve a critical mass of individuals in the U.S. House and Senate who can join with a president in upholding the Constitution. These representatives must believe in personal responsibility and creating a business-friendly environment, understand the balance between abundant fossil-fuel development and environmental safety, and yearn to elevate the government-dependent 47 percent rather than make them more dependent. They also must be totally pro-life and believe that the rule of law can undo a host of damaging regulations and restore the value system that made this nation great.

In the long run, with the help of God, we will be in a position to save millions of babies who otherwise would be slaughtered. With this kind of responsible empowerment, energizing a sluggish economy, bringing stability to a leaderless planet and facilitating innovation will not be that difficult. To sit helplessly by and pray for deliverance when the tools to achieve victory are in our hands is not useful. God helps those who help themselves.

Conservatives and those who share their values are the last bastion between freedom and tyranny. If the secular liberals, who are very clever, succeed in dividing us during the next two national elections, America as we know it will be gone. We can stop this, but we must work together. I disagree with those who think it is going to take decades to undo the damage that already has been done. Americans are exceptional and extremely resilient. We cannot allow ourselves to be defined by those who wish to fundamentally change our society.

I am convinced that Americans with common sense will soon regain power. It is essential that we not use the opportunity to exact revenge upon the liberals. Rather, we must govern by the Constitution in a way that is fair for all. It is not reasonable to have favorites and to enforce laws selectively. Most importantly, it is not the place of our government to rule the people; the government must always remember that it is in place to serve the people.

I believe that when people who were being manipulated by the secular liberals, including the media, have an opportunity to see how much better off they are when the proper relationship between the people and the government is restored, they will adopt a different attitude. This will empower them and the entire nation.

Now is the time to rise above partisan politics and recognize the incredible blessings God has bestowed upon our nation. It is time to elevate common sense, decency, honesty and compassion to their proper positions. Rather than simply repeating the words, we must actually achieve "one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."


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To: Kaslin

If conservatives decide to take their marbles and go home rather than fight to the bitter end because they feel their principles have been compromised, they will needlessly subject future generations to untold misery.


What a fail. Electing politicians who help the Left advance their principles will subject future generations to untold misery.

Dr. CArson has become a disappointment. His willingness to compromise makes him part of the problem.

If elected president this joker will work with Democrats and keep Obamacare intact. All for compromise.

Another contender bites the dust.


121 posted on 05/28/2014 9:35:38 PM PDT by RginTN
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A few years ago I voted for Corker and Alexander. I compromised and as a result the nation is more in debt because Corker and Alexander voted for more spending, the borders aren’t secure because my senators want amnesty, Obama gets his judges approved by my senators and my senators undermine efforts to derail Obamacare...that’s what happens when Conservatives put Party first. Disaster.


122 posted on 05/28/2014 9:50:09 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: nathanbedford

I think your analysis of Reagan is fair and mostly accurate
but I would add another aspect or two. Recall the term
‘Reagan Democrats’? RR could reach out to lifelong Democrats
and attract the support of a number of them. Of course one
might argue that in his time politics was not nearly as
polarized as today. And, it might also be argued that the MSM has been much more favorable to Obama than they were
to Carter which made things a little easier for Reagan
in the late 70s than they would be against Obama in more
recent times. Heck, maybe those Reagan Democrats became
Republicans and were replaced by today’s ‘low information
Democrats’. (Funny thing.....more information sources
today but a less informed electorate?)

Another thing you might recall is that Reagan was an
expert at talking passed the media and directly to the
people. Oh, how the news jerks hated that! We don’t
have any potential candidate that has that kind of
savvy and ability that I can see.


123 posted on 05/28/2014 9:50:11 PM PDT by Sivad (NorCal red turf)
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To: RginTN
If conservatives decide to take their marbles and go home rather than fight to the bitter end because they feel their principles have been compromised, they will needlessly subject future generations to untold misery.

I suppose if this were 1776, this might be something John Dickerson would lecture to John and Samuel Adams about when advocating they yet again prostrate themselves before the Leadership and beg for mercy and remonstrance.

I am resolved that Conservatives in these United States are, and of right ought to be free and independent, that they are absolved from all allegiance to the GOP crown and that all political connection between them and the Republican Party is, and ought to be, totally dissolved.

124 posted on 05/28/2014 10:02:14 PM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Kaslin
What a DISAPPOINTMENT!
Compromisers ALWAYS LOSE !

"Establishment Republicans" lose everytime they're listened to.
They wouldn't care if they DO lose.
If they can't be in power, they don't want US in power.
It's just that simple.
It's WAR!

We will never unify under "Establishment Republicans" .
"Establishment Republicans" have more in common with the Democrats, than they do with Conservatives.
The weak candidates are "Establishment Republicans", weak on national security, amnesty for illegals, abortion, and government spending.
"Establishment Republicans" scream "COMPROMISE".
And people who study the Bible know that COMPROMISE almost always leads to destruction.
Someone once said [We're] 'Not victims of "the Establishment." '
I disagree.
I ask you again: It WAS Mitt Romney, leader of the "Establishment Republicans"
and it WAS the "Establishment Republicans" who funded all those negative ads against Conservatives.

So conservatives, the BASE of the Republican Party, WERE ' victims of "the Establishment." '

These "Establishment Republicans" are being weeded out, one by one, and slowly but surely, the TEA Party is taking over.

"Establishment Republicans" Want to Redefine the Term "Conservative"
DO CONSERVATIVES "ESTABLISHMENT REPUBLICANS" WANT TO WIN IN 2014 OR NOT?

Jack Kerwick wrote an article on May 24, 2011 titled The Tea Partier versus The Republican and he expressed some important issues that I agree with.


I'm fresh out of "patience", and I'm not in the mood for "compromise".
"COMPROMISE" to me is a dirty word.
Let the RINO's compromise their values, with the conservatives, for a change.
Take a good long look at where "Establishment Republicans" ALWAYS take us.



The "Establishment Republicans" can GO TO HELL !

125 posted on 05/28/2014 10:23:37 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Kaslin
Voting for someone who agrees with you 90 percent of the time is far superior to voting for someone who disagrees with you 100 percent of the time.

What about someone who agrees with you three percent of the time? Is that far superior to voting for someone who disagrees with you 100 percent of the time?

126 posted on 05/28/2014 11:01:42 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Kaslin

I have a hunch we won’t agree with Ben 90% of the time once we peel back a few layers.


127 posted on 05/28/2014 11:05:02 PM PDT by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: nathanbedford
Re: “Reagan simply applied these principles to governing as well as getting elected.”

You have overlooked a critical fact - voter demography.

In 1984, a 59%-41% landslide victory for Reagan, he was decisively rejected by non-white voters.

Blacks - 91% for Mondale

Hispanics - 66% for Mondale (that was Reagan's “reward” for supporting the 1986 Amnesty!)

Now, apply those exact numbers to a 2012 imaginary election between Reagan and Obama.

Reagan would have won by 2%.

Reagan - 51%

Obama - 49%

Since 1984, the Democrat Party has imported 20 million new Socialist voters.

Reagan couldn't convert them in 1984.

And we can't convert them in 2014.

128 posted on 05/28/2014 11:07:02 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: nathanbedford

Nice post. Good food for thought.


129 posted on 05/28/2014 11:07:17 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Kenny; Finny; RitaOK; Resettozero; nathanbedford; xzins; workerbee; JRandomFreeper; Norm Lenhart; ..
Kenny: The question that you are understandably avoiding is: "Who are included within the word 'WE'?"

I believe in: getting rid of Obozocare, protecting the babies in utero, reserving "marriage" to one man and one woman per marriage, recognizing the practice of homosexuality as an abomination (see Genesis), supporting 2nd Amendment right to keep and bear arms, freedom of worship, a kickass foreign policy featuring a military second to none and far superior to whatever nation's military comes next, and other priorities like tax cuts and spending cuts as well.

The creature from Michigan by way of Taxachusetts nominated by the Establishment ruling class Wall Street greedheads failed on each and every count as did Obozo. What was that insanity about 90% agreement? Surely you are not suggesting any such level of agreement with John McCain, Mitt Romney, and the trash that are being nominated by the zillions of $$$$ paid out by the Chamber of Crony "Capitalism" to protect Muffie's trust fund and their "right" to screw the rest of the country in the endless quest to squeeze the last nickel out of those peasants lacking their power and influence.

If there is a WE and if WE have a fight to win it is a fight against the globalizing elitist money grubbers whose obscene levels of campaign spending do no more good than their ally George Soros.

Mitch McConnell, Weepy John (hic) Boehner (gives alcoholism a bad name), Sleazy Liar Eric Cantor, LAMAR!!! Alexander, Bob Corker, Lisa Murkowski, Susan Collins, Thad Cochran, Light in the Loafers Lindsay Graham, Mark Nancyboy Kirk, and many, many more in each house of Congress are not part of "WE," at least not in my house and not in an increasing number of other actually conservative households. If any of those named here are necessary to "our" efforts, "we" are NOT ready to govern.

The last POTUS election was lost on the day that Mittens Romney obtained a majority of delegates at the 2012 GOP-E convention. Wanna keep on nominating elitist trash and see whether the results are any different? They won't be. You will just elect the Medusa as POTUS.

Eight years of the Medusa and we will be ready to elect the USA's first Demonrat, openly gay, abortion mill owning, gun grabber and then the Churches will be closed and the concentration camps open and flourish.

Terrific strategy you have there!

130 posted on 05/28/2014 11:10:14 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society: Rack 'em Danno!)
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To: Moonman62
Politics is about persuasion, not compromise.

Nope, use brute force when you have it, works for the democrats.

131 posted on 05/28/2014 11:18:19 PM PDT by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: BlackElk

Great points


132 posted on 05/28/2014 11:21:41 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Kickass Conservative
Many of us have read what you have posted but do not AGREE with the gist of your posts. McCain was NOT worth electing. Nor were Romney, Alexander, Corker, Cochran, Graham, Murkowski, Collins, The Weepy Faux Suntanned Drunk, His Majority Leader and Chief Liar Cantor, etc., etc. Hanging their scalps from the lodge pole is worth it no matter who or what the Demonrats run.

The days of voting FOR the morally challenged money-grubbing trash vomited onto our ballots by the Ruling Class GOP-E greedheads is over in the GOP. You keep on nominating them. We'll keep on beating them.

Here's a new and more sensible rule: RULE OR RUIN. To the GOP-E: lead (as actual conservatives), follow (as actual conservatives) or get the hell out of our party.

133 posted on 05/28/2014 11:34:36 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society: Rack 'em Danno!)
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To: BlackElk

Bump


134 posted on 05/28/2014 11:39:54 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL

Thanks for your kind words and your daily contributions to the discussion here at FR. May God bless you and yours!


135 posted on 05/28/2014 11:47:16 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society: Rack 'em Danno!)
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To: BlackElk; INVAR

Just lumping one Reply together since both of you Posted your opinions to me.

Here it is. Any strategy that eliminates the Democrat, ANY Democrat Candidate from serving Elected Office is OK by me.

If refusing to Vote for the Republican (last man standing) in the General Election accomplishes that goal, go for it.

I wish every future Election was a replay of the 2010 General Election.

McCain sucked, Romney sucked and the Bush’s squandered their positions because they were squishy RINO’s.

I doubt I will live long enough to see another Republican, especially a Conservative Republican President Elected.

If abandoning today’s Republican Party in the General Election will somehow accomplish the goal of getting a Conservative Republican Elected, I’m all for it.

That pretty well wraps it up for me. I have been accused by others here of Posting “nonsensical drivel”, which I think is Libspeak for “having a different Opinion”, so I’ll close with something a Retired Navy Chief that used to work for me always said.

“Wish in one hand and spit in the other and see which one fills up first”.

Have fun, I’m done.


136 posted on 05/29/2014 12:10:06 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (If Cancer were Contagious, they would call it Liberalism...)
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To: Kaslin

Ben.

If you sir were not a black man you would have no more national political influence than I do.


137 posted on 05/29/2014 12:27:07 AM PDT by wardaddy (we will not take back our way of life through peaceful means.....i have 5 kids....i fear for them)
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To: Kaslin

I don’t like his repeated ise of the term “secular liberals” as our opposition. I don’t care about the religious beliefs of my political allies or opponents. I simply want limited, Constitutional government. I know enough of the “social justice” movement to know better than to think all liberals are godless anyway.


138 posted on 05/29/2014 1:42:48 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: wardaddy

Yes, I believe you are right. He speaks well, just like Obama, but without a teleprompter. He professes to be conservative/Republican but the first thing he wants to do is to make HIS side compromise, first to GOPe, and then when he gets the House and Senate he wants, compromise to the Democrats. Give the Senate filibustering back, give this country Amnesty for illegals, give this pResident everything he wants - all for the sake of unity.

No sale. He’s in the limelight because he’s black. Yeah, that’s about it. There are plenty others out there that have the right mindset. We don’t need to hitch our conservative wagon to him.


139 posted on 05/29/2014 1:44:22 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

Carson’s side is the GOPe.


140 posted on 05/29/2014 1:49:22 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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