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To: BroJoeK

Where is the southern propaganda? All I have seen since
childhood is history as written by northern propagandists.
How can you deny that Sherman’s march to the sea was pillage? The South was utterly destroyed for 100 years.


400 posted on 06/19/2014 9:05:05 AM PDT by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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To: upcountryhorseman
I'd be happy to provide you with links. mises.org and anything di lorenzo come to mind right off the top.

There has been no other conflict as widely chronicled as the War Between The States.

401 posted on 06/19/2014 10:45:28 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: upcountryhorseman; rockrr; achilles2000
upcountryhorseman: "Where is the southern propaganda?
All I have seen since childhood is history as written by northern propagandists."

FRiend, we're not talking about southern propaganda, we're talking specifically about pro-Confederate propaganda-lies, which began even before the Civil War was over, from people like Jefferson Davis' efforts to rewrite history, and make it appear as something other than "all about slavery".
From Jefferson Davis to today's achilles2000 our pro-Confederate Lost Causers want us to believe something noble and American inspired them -- i.e., "Big Government overreach", "states-rights", "that evil Ape Lincoln", "haughty New Englanders", "mercantilists' tariffs" something, anything else, to distract from the real, sorry truth of the matter: Deep South Fire-Eaters declared their secession and war on the United States in order to protect the future of their "peculiar institution", slavery.

So, what you're calling "northern propaganda" is mostly just simple, accurate recounting of actual facts & reasons, in the face of persistent efforts by pro-Confederates to revise them.

upcountryhorseman: "How can you deny that Sherman’s march to the sea was pillage?
The South was utterly destroyed for 100 years."

I've denied nothing which actually happened.
But for generations scholars, including Southerners, have searched the archives and even grave-yards for evidence of the "mass destruction", "pillage", "rape" and "murder" so often claimed by pro-Confederates.

It's just not there.
What is there tells us that Confederate forces operating outside the Confederacy were just as destructive, and often more-so, as Union armies fighting in the Confederacy.
However, by contrast with other armies before & since, both Confederate and Union armies were generally highly civilized "Christian soldiers."
To pick out just one example: a civil war in Europe known as the Thirty Years War killed two-thirds of the civilian population where it was fought -- mostly Germany.
In the American Civil War, you must resort to statistical projections for what Southern populations might have been had there been no war, to claim "mass civilian deaths".

In fact, there were virtually none.

As for that 100 years of southern poverty you point to, yes, it's true that the loss of slavery, and other war-related events (i.e., new supply sources for America cotton), threw the southern economy into a tail-spin from which it took generations to recover.
Indeed, as northern industrial might continued to grow -- through WWII and beyond -- the South became increasingly relatively backward.

Today much of that has changed, and the reasons include northern liberal self-destruction (i.e., unions, welfare states), increasing industrialization in the South, and I think, the biggest single factor in southern growth: air conditioning.

402 posted on 06/20/2014 7:25:10 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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