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No Surprise As East Ukraine Cities Vote Against Kiev
Forbes ^ | 5/12/2014 | Kenneth Rapoza

Posted on 05/12/2014 5:06:13 AM PDT by McGruff

Eastern Ukrainian cities voted to inch closer Moscow and further from Kiev on Sunday, following in the controversial wake of Crimea, a Black Sea peninsula formerly part of Ukraine.

Between 94% and 98% of eligible voters in Ukraine’s eastern provinces of Luhansk and Donetsk both voted for greater autonomy from Kiev, the head of the region’s Central Election Committee said on Monday.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Russia
KEYWORDS: donetsk; luhansk; ukraine
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To: McGruff
At least they had an election unlike the EU puppets in Kiev.

Imagine if only the big cities voted in the US elections.

121 posted on 05/12/2014 10:45:08 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: DoughtyOne
94 and 98% don’t cause you to scratch your head just a little? Seriously?

Considering neither of those cities (or the surrounding Oblasts) are majority Russian this is remarkable. Sort of like GA going 98% Democrat based on the vote of Atlanta.

122 posted on 05/12/2014 10:51:04 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: goldstategop
So why is that not believable? In the Donbass, some people voted for the status quo ante. That is lot more democratic than the way some people in Philadelphia and Chicago voted in the last presidential election.

There is only one part of the previous Ukraine that was majority Russian ethnicity and that was Crimea. The remaining south and west are majority Ukrainian. I find it nonsensical that a majority of ethnic Ukrainians would vote to become part of Russia.

You are entitled to your own opinion but not your own data.

123 posted on 05/12/2014 11:00:52 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: Mike Darancette

“I find it nonsensical that a majority of ethnic Ukrainians would vote to become part of Russia.”

Given the coup, the mass killings, the unrest, and the much brighter economic outlook in Russia, I don’t.

The question of whether the election was illegit/legit is immaterial to the long-term.

As western Journos noted, there were as many people voting that wanted to remain part of Ukraine, but couldn’t stomach the coup regime in Kiev, as there were that wanted to join Russia.

That tens of thousands, and maybe more, turned out, despite the very real possibility of being killed for it, says a lot.

Putin said today he will “honor the wishes of the voters.”
Kiev had better be listening, but it seems they aren’t, as there are many reports of a renewed attack around Slovyansk, including bombardment by Heavy Artillery.


124 posted on 05/12/2014 11:12:58 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf
Kiev had better be listening, but it seems they aren’t, as there are many reports of a renewed attack around Slovyansk, including bombardment by Heavy Artillery.

Washington DC had better be listening, but it seems they aren’t, as there are many reports of a renewed attack around Imperial CA, including bombardment by Heavy Artillery even though 99% of the population voted to join with Mexico.

What part of a sovereign country defending its territory from foreign invasion do you not understand?

125 posted on 05/12/2014 11:20:30 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: Mike Darancette

“What part of a sovereign country defending its territory from foreign invasion do you not understand?”

What part of the coup gov in Kiev is killing UKRAINIAN CITIZENS is it YOU refuse to understand??


126 posted on 05/12/2014 11:21:58 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: Mike Darancette; All
Extremely dangerous Russian terrorist voting in Donetsk:
127 posted on 05/12/2014 11:31:56 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf

TCRLaf, I now this is going to come as a shock to you, but governments fail all the time when they try to do things the populace and its leadership’s own governing coalition don’t want them to do.

The leader wanted to go one way, and it seems the rest of the government didn’t want to go that way.

Obama didn’t cause this?

Nobody did but a President who walked so far out on a limb he couldn’t get back to the trunk, and regroup.


128 posted on 05/12/2014 12:11:38 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Mike Darancette

Well it seems worthy of questioning to me. I’ve never heard of a region in the U.S. going 98% based on any great argument.


129 posted on 05/12/2014 12:13:42 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne

The Maidan was made up of MANY elements of Ukrainian Society, including many Russians.

Why did Obama, and our MONEY, choose to back the most violent, radical, and Anti-Russian elements involved??


130 posted on 05/12/2014 12:18:22 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf

I think we need to rewrite the history of WWII, because I’m sure some outside funds could probably be found in Austria when Hitler invaded.

Hey, Poland too.

France? Undoubtedly!

Wow, Hitler was right. Just damn.... /s


131 posted on 05/12/2014 12:21:54 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne

That isn’t an answer, just an obfuscation. Try again.


132 posted on 05/12/2014 12:34:02 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf

I’m not going to try again. The Ukrainian government had a right to do as it pleased. It did.

If you can’t grasp that, don’t waste my time.


133 posted on 05/12/2014 12:39:26 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne

The government is viewed by a large portion of Ukrainian Citizens as ILLEGITIMATE.

If you can’t grasp that, don’t waste my time


134 posted on 05/12/2014 12:45:22 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf

You sure talk a lot. What do you know about the majority of the Ukrainians?

Did you run a poll asking the Ukrainian people what they thought?

The ones I talk to aren’t impressed by what is going on, and they prefer the Ukrainian government than Putin’s nonsense.

At least one family that I know of refers to him as Putler. They do it because they think he’s acting like Hitler.


135 posted on 05/12/2014 12:47:46 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne

I guess you have missed events of the last several weeks?

Don’t play stupid.


136 posted on 05/12/2014 12:48:46 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf

Oh yes, the 98% voting in favor of, and in Crimea that representing 15% of the populace at large.

Wow, very impressive. I guess you’re right. /s


137 posted on 05/12/2014 12:49:53 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne

Only those who show up to vote get counted.

In last week’s Indiana primary it was 7%


138 posted on 05/12/2014 12:51:56 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf

Hmm, were there Russian troops, tanks, and thugs on the streets of Indiana? I didn’t know that.


139 posted on 05/12/2014 12:53:31 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne

You’re obfuscating again...


140 posted on 05/12/2014 12:55:51 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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