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Jobless in Seattle
Slate ^ | May 2 2014 | Jordan Weissmann

Posted on 05/03/2014 6:06:04 AM PDT by Malone LaVeigh

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“Would I be concerned about possible job losses if there were a $15 minimum wage in the restaurant industry, yes, I’d be concerned,” he told the New York Times in December. “There are concerns that it might lead to the substitution of automation for workers.”

Count on it.

1 posted on 05/03/2014 6:06:04 AM PDT by Malone LaVeigh
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To: Malone LaVeigh

No tipping since the waiters will make a living wage!


2 posted on 05/03/2014 6:10:05 AM PDT by Lockbox
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You can pretty much count on the food service industry patrons compensating for the increased costs with little or no tipping. The reason for tipping is good service, KNOWING that the staff are not well-compensated in their hourly wage. Raise that to $15, and I’d have no problem whatsoever not tipping a waiter. No problem at all.


3 posted on 05/03/2014 6:11:20 AM PDT by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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And your server will have no problem spitting in or otherwise doctoring your food. No problem at all.


4 posted on 05/03/2014 6:16:53 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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Solution: Stay at home. Food is better anyway.


5 posted on 05/03/2014 6:19:22 AM PDT by refermech
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To: Malone LaVeigh

“Will the last person leaving Seattle turn out the lights?”

The billboard was displayed for only 15 days in April 1971, near the Sea-Tac Airport, when it looked like Boeing was going to close up shop.

There was a mass exodus from that city, again during a vast economic downturn.

No city in America can support a $15/hour minimum wage. Those who cannot find work at that level of wages, whether through lack of demand, lack of skills, or lack of ambition, are doomed to remain jobless. Whether they stay in Seattle or not, is a matter of whatever public assistance they can chisel from the plantation masters.


6 posted on 05/03/2014 6:20:16 AM PDT by alloysteel (Selective and willful ignorance spells doom, to both victim and perpetrator - mostly the perp.)
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If Seattle succeeds in raising its minimum wage to $15, the city will suffer.

It is especially the Youth that will suffer. They most likely will not get that critical first job in Seattle.

7 posted on 05/03/2014 6:22:52 AM PDT by sr4402
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“Though some workers end up unemployed, enough get raises to make the tradeoff worthwhile.”

Just wow. It’s okay that some people become unemployed and put on welfare because in balance others do better. That’s about as elitist as it gets. Also, there’s no mention of the people who are impacted the most. People living on a fixed income are hit two ways. The cost of anything they use goes up and inflation rises so that whatever the new minimum wage is, it still has the buying power of the old minimum wage. But who takes it in the butt here? Retirees.


8 posted on 05/03/2014 6:26:05 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: SamAdams76

No, they aren’t gonna know about it beforehand. Their chance for spitting is when they still think they might get a tip -— unless they just spit in everyone’s food, and if they do that they’ll eventually be caught and charged with attempted assault (legally, intentional bodily fluid inclusion is a serious crime).


9 posted on 05/03/2014 6:34:21 AM PDT by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: Malone LaVeigh
sometimes people just have to learn the hard way.

I say we all support Seattle in this, and watch the inevitable collapse and be glad it was only Seattle that did this.

10 posted on 05/03/2014 6:39:52 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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Just another unintended consequence of leftist do-gooderism.

The left in its arrogant ignorance will ruin every good thing about life as it actually exists, if allowed. It cannot be overstated how the left’s total blind spot to unintended consequence is a true wrecking ball.

This is one reason it’s hard to counter the left: the suffering they will inflict isn’t obvious at the outset, because their intentions are generally good. Conservatism has similar good intentions but with the advantage of a worldview that accounts for actual reality.

Oh God help us.


11 posted on 05/03/2014 6:42:40 AM PDT by Yardstick
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Eventually, all of the businesses requiring min. wage employees will be located 100 yards outside the Seattle city limits.


12 posted on 05/03/2014 6:53:55 AM PDT by nobamanomore
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So long as you never go to same restaurant twice, I guess you will be okay. They do tend to have long memory for bad toppers so I would never return to one if I did that.


13 posted on 05/03/2014 6:54:08 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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You’re right. I would not either. But you also have to realize that the compensation system would have been drastically changed, and to keep clientele, owners would have to be on the watch for behavior like this from their employees. Frankly, if I even suspected that a staff member spit in my food I would start the evidentiary accountability process right there, have it tested and I’d sue the ass off that place.


14 posted on 05/03/2014 6:56:56 AM PDT by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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The winners will be those who have one or no employees , by reaping the rewards of inflation for goods and services. Looks like the 10 Dollar burger may be the norm in Seattle


15 posted on 05/03/2014 7:45:31 AM PDT by DocJhn
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The limousine Liberals think there are too many of those scruffy, working class people in Seattle. This is one way to reduce the population.


16 posted on 05/03/2014 7:50:19 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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I guess so. I really don’t care what happens in Seattle. They deserve what they wreak on themselves. They can keep their rain, they can keep their liberals, and they can keep their bums. Been there done that.


17 posted on 05/03/2014 7:51:30 AM PDT by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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If Seattle succeeds in raising its minimum wage to $15, the city will suffer.

Have the proponents of raising the minimum wage talked about where the extra cash to pay the higher wage will come from? Will the city reduce taxes so the small business owners can pay more to their employees? Will they otherwise make up the difference with taxpayer dollars?

Or do the socialists want the businesses to somehow pay using their obscene profits? Do the socialists have a clue on what are the economics of free enterprise? Do they understand risk, cost of satisfying all the government regulations, paying the taxes, etc.?

18 posted on 05/03/2014 8:34:12 AM PDT by olezip (Time obliterates the fictions of opinion and confirms the decisions of nature. ~ Cicero)
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Do the socialists have a clue on what are the economics of free enterprise? Do they understand risk, cost of satisfying all the government regulations, paying the taxes, etc.?

In a word: No.

But more broadly, they do not have a clue about economics at all (or are charlatans who know better but play to a voting base with no clue about economics). The left is an alliance of evil charlatans and the good-hearted, but clueless about economics.

19 posted on 05/03/2014 9:13:46 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

Unions and liberals spending more than a city can afford are turning a lot of America into desolate and abandoned areas.

Seattle will be heading that way on a more rapid pace with their new high minimum wage.

Go to the video below to see closed malls decaying and rotting in America.

http://xfinity.comcast.net/video/From-bustling-center-of-prosperity-to-ghost-
town/244591683932/Comcast/Today_in_Video/?cid=hero_sf_TIV

Going down next in America will be many of our hospitals due to Obozo Care. In Californicator land, hospitals are merging with others and many are in the closing the door stages. Union health care members who voted and supported Obozo Care are picketing and forcing more hospitals into a financial quagmire.


20 posted on 05/03/2014 10:03:20 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Herr Obama cannot divert resources from his war on Americans!)
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