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To: Lakeshark
There you go again, moving the goal posts per usual. Everyone on this thread noticed you didn't link me to a candidate who has a plan to deal with illegal immigration. Just one sir, just one, go ahead, we're watching. You obviously know her and every other candidate better than we do, so we're watching.

I'd like to see some place where she says she no longer supports registration and the illegal alien staying here.  If you can't provide that, then you have no idea if her position has changed or not.

I'm not here breathlessly hawking some other candidate.  I haven't made any statements about the immigration views of other candidates.  I merely asked what her views on it were.  You provided an answer and I have asked you to prove it.  Changing the issue to one of me providing statements from other candidates is the real deflection here.
 Nice try though.

As I said, we're also not holding our breath because we understand your hypocrisy and odd intellectual bankruptcy. Keep up the double standards, wrap them in blue print, and we'll all marvel at your chutzpah (and yes, we'll laugh).

Laugh all you like.  I don't mind at all.  What's becoming clearer with each of your posts, is that you cannot back up your claim that her position has changed.  Provide some documentation to make it clear Palin has stopped supporting registration and remaining in place.  If you can't, I understand your problem.  It's the same one I have with her.  She's great at populist presentations.  She's not so great on the important issues of the day.  She can make a great sound-bite.  She can't provide the plan that makes it clear she has changed her mind about registration and staying in place..

Keep posting us interviews that are six years old, interviews that never proved your point, keep making up what she says, and pretend you don't KNOW she came out strongly against the GOPE's amnesty/immigration plans. Go ahead, we're all watching you stink up the thread with your made up beliefs, so by all means continue.

Okay, the main beef with the interviews from six years ago, is that you believe Palin was caught up on the McCain campaign and so it isn't fair to saddle her with in effect his policy.  Okay, then lets eliminate the problem with that

Here's part of her interview with O'Reilly.  I'm not a big fan of O'Reilly, but in this interview she again reinforces her intent to register them and that the expectation is that the illegals who register will work.  This is from 2010, two years after McCain went down to defeat, and the same year Palin endorsed him to remain the Senator from Arizona over Hayworth.
 She hadn't been his running mate for two years.  None the less, she's still hawking the registration and remaining in place.

She also talks about putting the national guard on the border, and building the full fence on the border.  So she does say some good things too.

Then she makes what I think is a cardinal mistake.  Reagan's policy regarding illegal aliens did not fail.  Only have of it was implemented.  Bush, Clinton, Bush, and Obama failed to enforce the new tougher employer sanctions and tighter border security along the border with Mexico.  We stopped raids of businesses.  In short, we stopped most of the things we did prior to Reagan's agreement to the bill.  Saying that his fix didn't work, is very unfair to Reagan.  And Palin also pegs the figure at three million, which after the fact was accurate, but Reagan was assured there were only one million illegal aliens in country when he signed the bill.  Another point to be made on this 1 million vs 3 million figure, is that the pro amnesty bunch has always low-balled the figure of illegal s inside our nation.  Today the number is still pegged at 11 million even though we had 9 million in 2000, and we know for a fact that illegal alien border crossing exploded after Bush was elected, because he kept talking up amnesty.  So when Sarah talks of registering and remaining in place, she misses the one real lesson from the Reagan immigration reform.  Expect the actual number of illegal aliens involved to be up to 300% higher than what is discussed during the process.

While I do believe Palin's instincts are fairly good on the illegal aliens issue, her achillies heel is her belief in registration and staying in place.  If she follows through on that, we're easily looking at the impact of 80 to 150 million new U. S. Citizens within 20 years.  And most of them will vote for the party that gives away the most goodies.  That would be the Democrats.

We're also waiting for an apology for your Smearing, browbeating, blue lies for the past years.

LakeShark, if nothing else you are good for a laugh.

MAN UP: YOU WERE WRONG, ADMIT IT, MAN UP.


When I am wrong, I do man admit to it.  It's a trait you might want to consider adopting.

176 posted on 04/28/2014 12:30:00 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne; onyx; KC_Lion; kiryandil
You were wrong, you are wrong, AND YOU'VE NEVER BEEN MAN ENOUGH TO ADMIT IT. And from what I can see, you never will be.......

Why aren't you on other threads of every single GOP standard bearer or potential candidate asking for their immigration bona fides? We've noticed you haven't given us ONE link yet to a potential candidate who has the answer you demand for immigration. Why is that?

Answer: Because Doughty One is a hypocrite PDSer, nothing more, nothing less.

You are one messed up puppy.

195 posted on 04/28/2014 4:39:37 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Mr Reid, tear down this law!)
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