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To: Lakeshark
There are a lot of problems with your post sir.  Okay, lets look at them.

First, YOU came on to this thread with the same old tired bullshit attack you made for years, as if she was a part of the establishment GOPE who wants amnesty.

There is not current comprehensive immigration plan from Palin.  She wants to be considered to be a contender, but one of the leading issues of the day goes lacking when it comes to a clear cut plan from Palin.

Here last interviews on the subject she states she wants to register them.  Asked if they will have to leave, she says not as long as they follow the rules.  So she was/is another person who wants to make up new ruiles, rather than enforce the laws we have.  Where has she refuted these statements?  She says she's not in favor of Comprehensive immigration reform.  I never said she was.  I have only repeated what she said her plan was.  Where has she refuted that or presented a new plan.  Just saying she doesn't agree with McCain doesn't mean a thing.  He wants comprehensive immigration reforem.  She doesn't.  That still doesn't mean she does not want to register them and allow them to stay.  And when I ask for a link to her immigration policy, nobody will provide it.  I went to Facebook looking for it.  I didn't find it.  So link me to it LakeShark.

You wanted to recycle the old interviews while she was a candidate or shortly thereafter to "prove" your old ongoing made up point that has been now proven to be entirely incorrect. 

You honestly amaze me.  The interviews are out there.  You can listen to them.  And yet you refernce me trying to prove my "made up point".  No, I reference Palin's own ingterview.  And no I haven't been proven to be wrong.  Saying you don't support a comprehensive immigration reform, does not mean that you have sworn off registering illegals and allowing them to stay.  Show me her new plan, and I'll be glad to see it and agree to the points made in it.  Until then, I'm going with her last interviews.

She hasn't done new ones.  She hasn't sworn off registering and allowing them to stay.

For you to still be doing that KNOWING she is genuinely against amnesty shows you to be either dishonest, a simple Palin hater or both.

In the interviews in question, Palin says she is against amnesty.  Then she proceeds to suggest they need to be registered, and then they can stay.

You see LakeShark, you know even less about the woman than I do.  None the less you are here to set me straight, not knowing what you are talking about.

I find that more than slightly disturbing, you KNOWING she is against illegal immigration and all its negative ramifications you still came on a thread and pushed your old beliefs, might I add: clearly wrong and made up beliefs.

LakeShark, you really don't know what you are talking about.  It's pointless to discuss this with you, if you're not going to address what is out there.

So, now you come on and move the goal posts. You now say: Please link me to Palin’s detailed plan for fixing illegal immigration

Well sir, that's just disingenuous of you. The only "plans" that are out are from old candidates and old campaigns that have failed, there is no candidate for president yet and you know that. She is NOT a candidate, and neither is anyone else. If you can find one person with a "detailed plan for fixing illegal immigration" who might have presidential aspirations, go ahead, link us to it. Just one. Go ahead, just one. We won't hold our breath.

So what you're telling me, is that you acknowledge she has no comprehensive immigration reform plan.  And realizing she has no comprehensive immigration reform plan, you still come here to say what her plan is or isn't.  And when I at least fofer up interviews she has agreed to participate in, and she lays out her plan, you still say that is no longer her plan.  What pray tell do you base that on?  The last things she has said are out there, and she hasn't put out other detailed plans, but you're just postive that here plan is not what it used to be.  Why?  On what basis do you make that claim?

The point is, you are holding her to a standard that no one meets, yet criticizing her with your underlying premise (false) as if she is still aligned with McCain concerning immigration.

If you wish to cast this as McCain's plan, go ahead and try.  In the interveiw Palin state's clearly what her plan is.  Yet now it wasn't her plan after all.  It is now McCain's plan, and it was supposed to be all along.  Well, that's not the way she was selling it back then.  She was selling it as her thoughts on illegal immigration and how to fix it.  At no time in the interview did she reference John's and my plan, or John's plan, or anything about it being the campaign plan..., it was her plan..

As I said on the day YOU found out YOU WERE WRONG ABOUT ALL THIS: MAN UP, ADMIT YOU WERE WRONG, A REAL MAN WOULD DO SO. So far you have been incapable of a simple apology to all those you browbeat for years about this issue with the same old tired crap, and here you are again. It's like Groundhog Day with you.

Sorry, I'm not going to play the Obama game plan here.  We own up to what we have said as Conservatives.  Last I heard Palin was a Conservative.  She did the interviews.  It was unfortunate then.  It's still unfortunate.  If she wants to get out in front of this issue, a good place to start would be to refute the idea or registartion and allowing illegals to stay.  It's a rather simple step. Instead you come in to a thread, hijack it, and demonstrate just how unhinged you are about her. Grow up.

You know nothing abou the interveiws and what was contained in them, and you reference me as unhinged.  You ask me to grow up.  Tell you what LakeShark, study up on the issue and come back to discuss it more.  I'd be interested if you can find anything to link me to that backs up any of your claims.

163 posted on 04/27/2014 10:15:29 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne; onyx; KC_Lion; kiryandil
There you go again, moving the goal posts per usual. Everyone on this thread noticed you didn't link me to a candidate who has a plan to deal with illegal immigration. Just one sir, just one, go ahead, we're watching. You obviously know her and every other candidate better than we do, so we're watching.

As I said, we're also not holding our breath because we understand your hypocrisy and odd intellectual bankruptcy. Keep up the double standards, wrap them in blue print, and we'll all marvel at your chutzpah (and yes, we'll laugh).

Keep posting us interviews that are six years old, interviews that never proved your point, keep making up what she says, and pretend you don't KNOW she came out strongly against the GOPE's amnesty/immigration plans. Go ahead, we're all watching you stink up the thread with your made up beliefs, so by all means continue.

We're also waiting for an apology for your Smearing, browbeating, blue lies for the past years.

MAN UP: YOU WERE WRONG, ADMIT IT, MAN UP.

175 posted on 04/28/2014 11:19:40 AM PDT by Lakeshark (Mr Reid, tear down this law!)
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