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CLIVEN BUNDY'S COMMENTS ON RACE & THEIR IMPACT
JEFFHEAD.COM ^ | 25 April 2014 | Jeff Head

Posted on 04/25/2014 10:12:08 AM PDT by Jeff Head

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To: plain talk
You may make light of his manner of speech and his education...but he has worked hard his whole life, provided for his family, and his extended family, and when the time came, has been willing to stand in the breach.

I will not make light off him, and give him a LOT of credit and respect for that...and believe despite whatever level of sophistication you think he lacks, that he can see more clearly than the vast majority.

He is speaking because the issue about his Ranch is close and personal. He has every right to do so, whether you happen to think he is eloquent enough or educated enough to do so.

He represents the core of the working and free people in this nation...that counts for a wjole lot with me.

41 posted on 04/25/2014 10:52:25 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Jeff Head
No, he was responding to a reporter.

So he does have nobody to blame but himself.

He is doing all he can to defend what he views as his way of life and freedom.

And...his comments on blacks and Mexicans have what to do with that exactly?

Folks who ranch all of their lives are not what you may consider "sophisticated," but they can generally spot a ringer from a mile off, and he knows down trodden people when he sees them.

Then his vision failed on this one.

42 posted on 04/25/2014 10:53:05 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Jeff Head
Cliven Bundy, who is well into his seventies, did not articulate himself very well, and was wrong about the comparison to slavery. But he made it clear up front that he did not advocate for any return to it, or going back in history.

I had viewed CNN just a half an hour ago. I saw Wolf Blitzer with two persons. One was a Paul Begala. Sickened, I turned it off. They were going full tilt on the racism aspect.

I hope to be excused a digression on the subject here. One word has in the past been used to utterly and completely destroy people who got in someone's way. Today it is "Racist". The word "Nazi" is also used, but with hardly the same effect.

At another time in history, there was an Inquisition. Their power was absolute. The word used at that time to destroy and render a person to torture or death was "Heretic". I would describe people like the Nevada politician, Harry Reid and the Begala type as Inquisitors.

Merciless opportunists to say the least.

43 posted on 04/25/2014 10:53:59 AM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: exnavy

Sorry for the length but it’s almost impossible to deal with this topic in the 30 second attention span of the distressingly “average” voter today.

Thank you GOVERNMENT SCHOOLS AND TELEVISION.


44 posted on 04/25/2014 10:54:50 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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To: First_Salute
If Clive Bundy were to sit down and write out his thoughts, and then go back to them a few days later and edit them, and then take a third look a week later, he would likely do better expressing what is on his mind.

But he didn't. Nobody held a gun to his head and forced him to hold his presser and say what was on his mind. So he has nobody to blame but himself.

45 posted on 04/25/2014 10:56:58 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: GeronL
he was answering a loaded question from a reporter

And gave a dumb answer. Lesson one should be don't talk to reporters. Lesson two should be if you ignore lesson one then restrict your comments to your problem with the BLM and keep your socialogical observations to yourself.

46 posted on 04/25/2014 11:00:24 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: GeronL
he did not say they were - he wondered if generational welfare was any better

How could chattel slavery be preferable to anything?

47 posted on 04/25/2014 11:01:23 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Jeff Head
There is a HUGE uissue about race and it is being perpetrated by the leftist opposition. Not only is there nothing wrong woith pointing that out...it should be pointed out.


There is, and there is nothing to be served by running in terror when the media accuses us of being racist for daring to mention it.

Bravo on seizing the initiative and putting the focus where it belongs. I only wish we could get the NY Times to publish what you have said here.

I only with more people responded reasonably put the onus back on the liberals and the government instead of thowing Bundy under the bus and backing over him.

48 posted on 04/25/2014 11:08:49 AM PDT by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: Jeff Head

The Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton answer to all these rates is white man and his slavery. Jessie and Al will refuse to note that slavery rates are extremely high in the Middle East and Africa today and the Muslims, both Arab and Black, are the instigators. It is always someone else’s fault. Black have had 50 years or more of free government hand outs and have allowed themselves to become slaves to the federal government for these handouts.


49 posted on 04/25/2014 11:09:12 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (MARANATHA, MARANATHA, Come quickly LORD Jesus!!! Father send thy Son!! Its Time!)
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To: Jeff Head

Jeff, forgive me the cut and paste from another thread.

I guess you haven’t heard. Beck and others have declared Bundy is just a reprehensible racist and probably deserves what the BLM was about to do to him.

Incredible! Frankly, I could give a rat’s ass. Well, that is a bit overstated. Still, it strikes me that this gentleman was willing to put his and his son’s lives on the line. Not just willing but actually DID. To abandon him because the NY Slimes brands him racist seems to me to be ungrateful. God Forbid the gummint come for me and Beck discovers I am a smoker. OMG, and I brew beer, too. Worse, I don’t pay tax on my smokes! I grow my own.


50 posted on 04/25/2014 11:11:51 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: GeronL

Yes he did.

If he started carping, on TV, about Sheriff Arpaio and Hussein’s forged BC, then Hussein would face a choice:

Abandon the Bundy Ranch episode (and leave Bundy alone).

Or...

Let an elderly rancher sit on TV every day raising awareness about the Cold Case Posse and their upcoming revelations on Obama Fraud.

Either way is a win for Bundy. Would the ‘win’ be decisive? My crystal ball cannot know.


51 posted on 04/25/2014 11:13:36 AM PDT by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: wastoute

Beck can kiss my ass. I no longer listen to him. I no longer pull up his paper. As far as I am concerned, Glen Beck does not exist. The issue is not Bundy and never was. The issue is, can the Government use its power to murder a legal landowner and his family and then give said property to a powerful and in my opinion a crooked and corrupt politician. And much to my disgust, the answer, from an all too many on this forum is a resounding yes.


52 posted on 04/25/2014 11:19:19 AM PDT by sport
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To: LyinLibs

h it will not be on TV unless its heavily edited to make him look bonkers


53 posted on 04/25/2014 11:19:28 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: DoodleDawg

nobody said it was


54 posted on 04/25/2014 11:20:46 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: GeronL

“It will not be on TV unless its heavily edited to make him look bonkers.”

Probably correct for MSM outlets.

Web, maybe not.


55 posted on 04/25/2014 11:21:50 AM PDT by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: GeronL
nobody said it was

Other than Bundy. He wondered if it wasn't better than they had now.

56 posted on 04/25/2014 11:41:37 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Jeff Head

Bookmark for later read.


57 posted on 04/25/2014 11:49:28 AM PDT by FBD
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To: Jeff Head

He needed to realize, and it is hard to comprehend at times, that a person of his position and visibility to the national media needs to have someone well versed in what to say in public and what not to say. In other words - he needs a good PR firm.


58 posted on 04/25/2014 11:49:41 AM PDT by SLB (23rd Artillery Group, Republic of South Vietnam, Aug 1970 - Aug 1971.)
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To: Jeff Head

In world governed by lies and wishful thinking, telling the truth is a radical act and will get you trouble.


59 posted on 04/25/2014 11:54:02 AM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: Jeff Head

Bundy’s Black Bodyguard: ‘I Would Take A Bullet For That Man’ (VIDEO)

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/cliven-bundy-bodyguard-take-a-bullet


60 posted on 04/25/2014 11:56:55 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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