Posted on 04/24/2014 8:11:00 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Cliven Bundy, the Nevada rancher around whom some Republicans and conservative activists have rallied in a high-profile fight against the federal government, made disparaging comments about African-Americans in an interview with The New York Times published Thursday.
Bundy wondered if African-Americans might have been "better off" as slaves, referring to them as "the Negro."
From The Times' Adam Nagourney:
“I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro,” he said. Mr. Bundy recalled driving past a public-housing project in North Las Vegas, “and in front of that government house the door was usually open and the older people and the kids — and there is always at least a half a dozen people sitting on the porch — they didn’t have nothing to do. They didn’t have nothing for their kids to do. They didn’t have nothing for their young girls to do.
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Bundy does not appear to have stated that blacks were better off under slavery, but rather he drew up a two-sided rhetorical question whether moving from slavery to dependency, in the process decreasing the attendant freedom, made the blacks "better off".
Creative editing can make up look like down. I am unsurprised that the actual words are not the subject of the controversy - but the message that can be built up from those words by mincing them in unnatural ways is now the subject.
Too bad Mr Bundy made it so easy for them.
Are you saying that government dependency is good?
It wasn't that long ago that you pinged me and posted “Conservatives see blacks the same they do whites. Its liberals that treat them different”
Sweeping generalizations about how blacks are dysfunctional completely contradicts that(what you said). But now we are supposed to agree with him, and claim the opposite too?
And what makes him an authority on blacks anyway?
Someone just pinged me to tell me that Bundy also praised Mexicans who come here and he called for amnesty.
Here ya go.
I Don't Care if Cliven Bundy is a Racist( Youtube ^ | 4/24/14 | Kira Davis )
Next we will be told by some to repeat ‘I am a racist too’ as a group chant.
This is definitely another path off a cliff.
There’s a very simple way to diffuse all this “you’re a racist” sh*t:
Come out and say: “There are worse things in this world to be besides a ‘racist’.”
Which is very true.
Even Khent said “F*** the race pimps.”
Here Bundy’s complete and unedited statement. Compare it to what the NYT reported.
Bundy was MovieShopped.
See if I care.
So what's the answer then? We cower in fear of being a called a word - which they're going to call us anyway, and kowtow to them?
Nope. Not an option for me.
And the fact that this Kira Davis thought enough about it to post a YouTube video in defense of him - and the amount of pro-Bundy comments underneath it - shows that THAT meme has been sorely overused, and people aren't buying it anymore.
The perpetually offended - and the PROFESSIONALLY-offended - will whine, bitch, cry, stomp their feet all they want no matter WHAT you do or say. It's a political tactic, and they use it because it has worked so well for so long.
F*** 'em.
Words only have power if you LET them power, by your reaction to them. Read "The Anarchist Cookbook" and look at how the left used the word "Pig" back in the day for cops.
What Mr. Bundy said doesn't change what started this whole crap pile, and what Fedzilla did to him.
Was he less-than-tactful with his choice of words? Maybe - but again, ONLY if you're worried about offending those who make an artform out of BEING offended.
I think the guy is just blunt and speaks plainly about what he saw; he also spoke about Mexicans being some of the "hardest working people" he ever saw. Why is THAT not "racist" - just because he was praising them and not criticizing them?
As for the group chant thing... no, of course not. But it is also a Free Speech issue here. The man made an observation - however bluntly expressed - and he is entitled to express his opinion on it.
The First Amendment wasn't designed for the protection of popular speech. It protects the rights of ALL to speak freely - whether that speech is "politically-correct" or not. The left has been screaming that at us for years - well, this is time for them to put their money where their mouth is and suck it up.
And defending your own culture, traditions, heritage, and PEOPLE from being disenfranchised, silenced politically, and denigrated on a daily basis by other groups is not "racist" - it's called self-preservation.
Either it's OK for ALL demographics to do so, or it is NOT applicable for ANY demographic to do so.
Take a walk through your local Chinatown. You're an outsider there. Why is THAT not "racist"?
Evidently "racism" is only racism when a white guy says something that makes the heads of the perpetually aggrieved explode.
See my #152
What you said - f em.
Back; and to the left. (Which I DO believe, btw.)
Bundy really seems to have a love for those illegals, who probably work on his range,("I worked along side with them")
Good people, good family, hard workers , says we need to join them.
Wat-a-great Guy
The ‘Bundy immigration reform bill for those awfully nice hard working family people who come here illegally’
Exactly.
It’s like we’re so caught up in picking sides in these disputes (for ex: Zimmerman as well) - that we don’t stop & say ....”hold on - maybe there isn’t a hero in this story”
Bundy really seems to have a love for those illegals, who probably work on his range,("I worked along side with them")
Good people, good family, hard workers , says we need to join them.
Wat-a-great Guy
The ‘Bundy immigration reform bill for those awfully nice hard working family people who come here illegally’
I take Bundy for what he is, a human being, a flawed human being like you or I, who has a legitimate beef with an increasingly oppressive government.
So go ahead continue to wring your hands, but don't expect me to join you.
I think you are right that he may not have meant it the way it sounded.
I have only seen this man speak a few times in some interviews.
I fear the more he speaks - the worse its going to get.
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