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1 posted on 04/24/2014 7:38:55 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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....you know, like Eric Holder’s “my people” comments or Obama’s “typical white person” racism.


40 posted on 04/24/2014 7:54:36 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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New York Times “overhears” this at a Saturday Press Conference with no recordings. Conservatives are supposed to have common sense...


43 posted on 04/24/2014 7:55:16 AM PDT by Mechanicos (When did we amend the Constitution for a 2nd Federal Prohibition?)
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Pure Alinsky.


46 posted on 04/24/2014 7:55:44 AM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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If this coming from the Slimes, I want to hear the tape of Bundy making those statements. Then I want forensic experts to validate that the tape is indeed Bundy and is not just a mashup of sound bites using Bundy’s voice.

And even then, I wouldn’t believe it.

The Slimes is a left-wing propaganda organ. Truth takes a back seat to discrediting its enemies. This is most likely as true as Dan Rather’s Guard story.


48 posted on 04/24/2014 7:56:03 AM PDT by IronJack
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If you look at what he said in his simple cowboy way...is he wrong? The way he talks is not necessarily racist but just simple minded. Compare this to Jamie Fox, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson.


49 posted on 04/24/2014 7:56:06 AM PDT by jetson
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The truth no one wants to hear.
56 posted on 04/24/2014 7:57:19 AM PDT by VideoDoctor
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> The New York Times has overheard Cliven Bundy, ..., saying

The key here is overheard. This tells me that the NYT reported fabricated the whole unverifiable thing.
Nobody else heard anything, only the reported with a deadline and an imagination.


57 posted on 04/24/2014 7:58:09 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Government by Gun Point.)
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I’m sorry, but what about what he said is so wrong? How is this different than what Bill Cosby said about the same group of people? Bundy is white, and the government is stealing his land?

Bundy is telling the truth. This is the same truth, by the way, most Tribal chairmen will tell you about the folks on Indian reservations. Direct quote, first hand, made to me by a guy I like too much to subject to the inhuman sh!tstorm that will befall him if I rat him out:

“The worst mistake we ever made as a people was excepting government help from the white man. It ruined us.”

Jesse Jackson HIMSELF has said the same thing in a different way.

And from this, because the guy had the temerity to call out the government for ALL of its destructive overreaching, he’s going to be labeled a racist. As a racist, you have less rights than a felon.

Any legitimate claim you may have had is out the window, because you were making an observation that has far more than a grain of truth.

And this is typical of Rand Paul - run. Just like dad, actually. Let the world do its worst, and on our little Island will be OK. The difference between Rand and Barry on foreign affairs is literally nothing.

Anybody that runs from Bundy for this is going to be pretty easy to handle the night their door gets broken down and their families are being hauled off.

Happened to a 79 year old grandmother last night, and to someone else the yesterday.

You can disagree with Bundy’s observation (it’s not his opinion, it’s a fact), but it doesn’t change a dot or tittle of the fact that the feds tried to take his land in a way not unlike the Brits did the Irish in the days of Oliver Cromwell in the 1650’s.

Come in, take the cows, take the land, evict the family. Resisting? Fine, to jail with you.

Then Reid was going to hand it to the Chinese, in a project run by his son in law. Sounds pretty European ruling class to me.

Bundy’s point - the USG is a big fan of enslaving its citizens. You can’t have a tax revolt in the US anymore because you’ve already paid them. April 15 is about getting back the money you loaned them for a year.

You don’t own your home. You don’t own your business, and if you think you did, your sovereign will disagree, and I quote, “You didn’t build that.”

Anyone who runs from Bundy on this basis: may your chains rest lightly upon you.


58 posted on 04/24/2014 7:58:21 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs (.)
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Bullshit. Prove with tapes, NYT, or you are LYING ... AGAIN.
62 posted on 04/24/2014 7:59:41 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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OK, but were his remarks INCORRECT?

Anyone... anyone???

Democrats???


63 posted on 04/24/2014 8:00:47 AM PDT by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period. PALIN/CRUZ 2016)
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So? I used to see the same thing when driving through North Tulsa all the time.


69 posted on 04/24/2014 8:01:59 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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This is being used to smear any conservative who showed ANY support of Bundy.

The Wire: A List of Cliven Bundy's Supporters, Now That We Know He's a Pro-Slavery Racist

70 posted on 04/24/2014 8:02:19 AM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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And this is supposed to make a difference in the opinion on what the government is doing??????????

How stupid are American's supposed to be in Liberals opinions??????

OVERHEARD????? We are just supposed to blindly believe government mouthpieces at the NY TIMES who give us nothing but liberal propaganda instead of truth. We in our unquestioning gullibility for then dem unnamed propagandist at the NY Times are to what??? Turn and run???? Bow down to government injustice? Be happy this rancher gets taken out by heavy handed, militarized government? Just Desperate and pitiful!

75 posted on 04/24/2014 8:04:23 AM PDT by Lady Heron
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Have they released an unedited recording of him saying it? If not, I have no reason to believe that he said it.

He may have, it is just that the NYT is not a credible source. The Weekly World News stories about Bat Boy are more credible than anything published in the NYT.


77 posted on 04/24/2014 8:05:04 AM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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Unless the NYT can cough up a live video and audio clip of those very words coming right out of Bundy’s mouth, in front of multiple, disinterested credible witnesses, I would automatically slam this as a character assassination hit-piece. Never let the enemy define the rules of engagement, and never believe what they say, because treachery and deceit is their SOP.
83 posted on 04/24/2014 8:08:11 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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Because the NYT is such a reliable source....

...they just issued a retraction of their “Russian troops in Ukraine” scoop.

How did NYT reporters ‘overhear’ without recording? I’m awaiting a Bundy statement on this...


84 posted on 04/24/2014 8:08:13 AM PDT by logi_cal869
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Cliven Bundy Just Ruined His Cause

Break the law all you want and you'll still have supporters. But say just one thing that's politically incorrect....

87 posted on 04/24/2014 8:10:04 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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Occupy Wall Street people were volunteer shock troops for the Democrat Federal Government of Obama, Pelosi, Holder and Schumer.

Reid’s Rustlers were hired shock troops for the Democrat Federal Government of Reid, Obama and Holder.

Occupy Wall Street people attacked businesses in large cities.

Reid’s Rustlers attacked cattle in an isolated Nevada Corral.

Both Occupy Wall Street and Reid’s Rustlers destroyed private property and private jobs.

Both Occupy Wall Street and Reid’s Rustlers were financially supported, (indirectly and directly, respectively), by the Democrat Obama Administration.

Both Occupy Wall Street and Reid’s Rustlers were publicly encouraged by the Democrat Obama Administration, and the Democrat Left Stream Media.

MOVE ON!
FORWARD!


88 posted on 04/24/2014 8:10:07 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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Bundy needs to shut up and move on with his ranching. Next he’ll be facing attempts
to collect fees for grazing. But he says he’ll continue on with his press conferences.

snip.......
He said he would continue holding a daily news conference; on Saturday, it drew one
reporter and one photographer, so Mr. Bundy used the time to officiate at what was in
effect a town meeting with supporters, discussing, in a long, loping discourse, the
prevalence of abortion, the abuses of welfare and his views on race.

end snip

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/24/us/politics/rancher-proudly-breaks-the-law-becoming-a-hero-in-the-west.html?hpw&rref=us


89 posted on 04/24/2014 8:10:10 AM PDT by deport
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As well, from an online source:

On Thursday, the State Department was backtracking. Psaki admitted the photograph does not show Russian troops in Ukraine and said it appeared in a “draft version” of a briefing packet released by the State Department.

The sloppy propaganda, however, has not deterred the State Department. Pskai claimed there is enough material to “make a connection between the Russians and the armed militants” in eastern Ukraine.

In other words, false narratives that fit the agenda are still Ok. Even if this is discredited, we'll hear about this all year.

92 posted on 04/24/2014 8:10:44 AM PDT by logi_cal869
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