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Eros and Estrogen on the Front Line (no successful military in history has put women in combat)
Canada Free Press ^ | April 22, 2014 | Michael R. Shannon

Posted on 04/22/2014 11:10:38 AM PDT by xzins

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To: PapaNew
Faith is NOT a work or a "precondition." It is a gift God gives BY GRACE not by our righteousness or anything else.

Do you think God's grace gives FAKE Faith? Or does He give REAL faith?

61 posted on 04/22/2014 2:29:31 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Texas resident

“Israel is ... surrounded by millions of muslims who want to kill them off and take their land.”

Americans are surrounded by millions of Democrats who want to kill us off and take our land.

Similar.

Still, we don’t need women in combat. I read an article written by a female US Marine (we used to call them WM’s) who spent a year in the Middle East doing combat patrols. She wasn’t wounded, but she is now on permanent disability due to the damage done by carrying heavy loads every day. She also made it sound like she was quite the jock when she got out of TBS. Her point was that female bodies aren’t designed for that stress and strain.


62 posted on 04/22/2014 2:34:41 PM PDT by ChicagahAl (Don't blame me. I voted for Sarah.)
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To: xzins
Why ask such a question?

No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him (John 6:44).

That a good description of the GIFT OF FAITH and those are God's rules not man's rules.

63 posted on 04/22/2014 2:44:03 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: wideawake

“The Soviet Army put women in combat.”

In the initial phase, yes, to a very limited degree, when it was absolute life or death survival in early phase of the Nazi invasion. In the final Red Army push west, not really much at all.


64 posted on 04/22/2014 3:28:02 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: xzins
"The obvious solution for sexual assault in the military is fewer females in close proximity to males or at least a more accurate survey, but with this administration neither is likely to happen. "

Because you know when women are around men just have to rape them.

65 posted on 04/22/2014 3:30:26 PM PDT by Anoreth (It is not moth eaten. It is superb.)
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To: Anoreth

Well, we could remove the warriors and all the field living, or we could send the females back to where they used to be before the left started forcing them into an environment that they don’t belong in.


66 posted on 04/22/2014 3:51:36 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12

I’m not taking issue with women not being in the infantry. I have a problem with the (reoccuring) argument that the reason sexual assault exists in the military is because there are women around and apparently men just can’t stop themselves. I don’t know where it originated but it’s insulting at best. It seems to be snuck into pretty much every single article about this subject no matter how well-written the paper might be otherwise.


67 posted on 04/22/2014 4:00:07 PM PDT by Anoreth (It is not moth eaten. It is superb.)
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To: Anoreth

Rape is without a doubt a crime, no matter where you are, but sexual assault and harassment can be something else.

Few women ever see men really living as and being men, it can be jarring to have to mix the world’s most testosterone loaded work, with cute young girls.

Part of the reason is the living and working conditions, which include a lot of camping, the age of everyone involved, (think of months in a small submarine full of teens and twenty somethings), the inability of modern females to inspire respect from males since they are so loose and easy, the constant complaining of modern females about even normal male behavior and government specialists seeking those complaints, after years of the females having been trained to see everything as harassment, but reason number one, is one that no one will mention, but that most veterans will know.


68 posted on 04/22/2014 4:14:23 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12

“Rape is without a doubt a crime, no matter where you are, but sexual assault and harassment can be something else.”
I don’t think I understand what you’re saying here.

I am a veteran and familiar with the ins and outs of having females and males on the same ship or at the same unit. Yes, some of the females were sluts and/or whiners. Others weren’t. The females (myself included) who could suck it up and also not manage to sleep with everyone in sight had as much respect from everyone else as any of the males.
Then again I never had much respect for the males on board who were willing to sleep with female crewmembers no matter who they were. Regulations apply to both parties equally. So my real opinion on women being in combat roles is that they should have to follow the same standards as the males.
My opinion’s not very popular with anyone, though.


69 posted on 04/22/2014 4:37:09 PM PDT by Anoreth (It is not moth eaten. It is superb.)
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To: Anoreth

That post seem totally bland, and empty of any meaning or insight.


70 posted on 04/22/2014 4:54:11 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12

I thought you wanted to talk about real-life experiences with what happens when men and women are onboard the same unit.


71 posted on 04/22/2014 5:04:19 PM PDT by Anoreth (It is not moth eaten. It is superb.)
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To: Anoreth

See post 70, that conversation wasn’t coming from you.


72 posted on 04/22/2014 5:07:06 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: PapaNew

You’re dodging, Papa.

I assume you’ve acknowledged that God does not give FAKE faith.

Therefore, if anyone has a FAKE faith, then it is not from God.

Jesus said in Mt 7:15: “”Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.”

Paul said in Acts 20:29 “I know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock.”

Paul said: Galatians 5: 19The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions 21and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.

In chapter 1 he cautioned: 6I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you to live in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— 7which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse! 9As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under God’s curse!


73 posted on 04/22/2014 5:20:43 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: ansel12

I’m still not sure what conversation you’re referring to.


74 posted on 04/22/2014 5:25:13 PM PDT by Anoreth (It is not moth eaten. It is superb.)
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To: xzins
the one who called you to live in the grace of Christ

That's exactly what I've been talking about - the very theme of Galatians: saved by grace, not works. As far as I'm concerned "faked" faith is when faith is turned into into a work. Faith is not a work, it is a gift of God as previously cited. The focus of the gospel is the abundance of God's grace (Rom 5:17), not worrying about how much faith you have. Your thrust seems to go in the direction that you must somehow do something to "earn" or qualify for salvation. The only qualification for you to be saved is that you are a sinner. That's all you bring to Jesus to get saved. Your sorry self. No other way.

75 posted on 04/22/2014 5:35:07 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: PapaNew

Since you acknowledge that there is such a thing as faked faith, then you understand that there will be those among us who are not part of us.

They are tares among wheat.

Those who refuse to stop living a life of homosexuality are among fake Christians.

Paul expressly says so.

1 Co 6:9Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men 10nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God


76 posted on 04/22/2014 5:52:06 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins
Well, you've kind of shifted the subject here. The subject is whether a homosexual can become a Christian and the extent of God's grace in welcoming the worst sinner without any "preconditions".

Testing the spirits and false brethren is another subject.

77 posted on 04/22/2014 8:14:44 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: PapaNew
I worked with a guy that was openly gay and talked about his "partner" all the time. This guy was also a born-again Christian.

Not possible. You and he are deluded.

78 posted on 04/22/2014 8:21:12 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture)
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To: steve86

A flat assertion is no argument.


79 posted on 04/22/2014 9:39:12 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: PapaNew

Then, of course, there’s James...


80 posted on 04/22/2014 10:28:52 PM PDT by gogeo (If you are Tea Party, the Republican Party does not want you.)
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