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1 posted on 04/17/2014 10:27:00 PM PDT by wetphoenix
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The German government...honours this particular way of commemorating fallen Red Army soldiers

It seems kind of weird to honor enemy soldiers, the ones that killed your country's people and soldiers. I know Germany lost, but still.

2 posted on 04/17/2014 10:44:04 PM PDT by PaulCruz2016
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Its been well known for a couple of decades that a good number, well into the thousands, of the 80,000 soviets killed in Berlin were killed by other Soviet soldiers, in a competition between different Red Army units to capture the Brandenburg gate and the Reichstag building. Even with that being said, if some Germans don't like Russian war memorials in their country, then their fore-fathers shouldn't have tried to capture The USSR in 1941.


4 posted on 04/17/2014 10:48:35 PM PDT by Lockbar (What would Vlad The Impaler do?)
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Now would be a good time.


6 posted on 04/17/2014 10:58:05 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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history never happened .. damn those ruskies anyway.


8 posted on 04/17/2014 11:05:59 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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history never happened .. damn those ruskies anyway.


9 posted on 04/17/2014 11:06:02 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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A few years ago the Estonians declared they were going to clear some old Soviet Red Army memorial from the Tallinn city center. The local Russians got drunker than usual and rioted, but the Estonians held firm and moved the former totalitarian occupier's relic to a more remote location.

If little Estonia can rid their streets of communist garbage, why can't Germany?

12 posted on 04/18/2014 12:37:07 AM PDT by Dagnabitt (Amnesty is Treason. Its agents are Traitors.)
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I visited this memorial as part of a Berlin tour back in 1980 when there were still Russian soldiers goose-stepping across the front because the monument was considered part of the Russian zone of occupation. I was on a tour bus that was allowed to slowly drive in front of the monument. The Russians claimed the T39 tanks on the pedestals were the first two into Berlin in 1945.

Thanks for posting as I had often wondered what happened to this after The Wall came down.


17 posted on 04/18/2014 2:42:52 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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I had never seen a monument like this one inside the country of a former adversary - especially one to an adversary that really wasn't any more morally righteous.

I would 'respectfully' pack up the tanks and statue and ship it back to mother Russian.

BTW the marble used in this memorial was taken from the destroyed Reich Chancellery.

19 posted on 04/18/2014 5:39:53 AM PDT by skeeter
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Get rid of it. Plenty of other Soviet monuments in Eastern Berlin they can go slobber over.


20 posted on 04/18/2014 6:24:06 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Play the 'Knockout Game' with someone owning a 9mm and you get what you deserve)
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During the Cold War this war memorial was one of three places the Russians had the right to post their troops, based on the outcome of the Second World War. The other two were Spandau Prison and the Berlin Air Safety Center.


23 posted on 04/18/2014 7:02:49 AM PDT by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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