WATCH: Bono's Unexpected Response to 'Who Is Jesus?' Question

Charisma News ^ | 31 March 14 | Charisma News Staff

[SkyPilot]

U2 frontman Bono talks about his faith and answers the question "Who is Jesus?" in the video below. Click play to watch.

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[Elsie]

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[Elsie]

By exempting themselves from Yeshua’s sincerest demands, they qualify for the full benefits of Matthew 7:23.

Sigh...

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John 6:28-29

Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?”
Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”

[Elsie]

If there be nothing required of us how can we fail?

Hello!

I just posted the REQUIREMENT; straight from Jesus' lips.

[SkyPilot]

Ran into a recent breed of folks lately myself, they start adopting ancient sounding “Jewish” names for themselves, believe you cannot pray to Jesus using the Anglicanized name, and start complaining about which actual day you should go to worship service. It starts to get actually laughable when they argue among themselves if His name should be pronounced as YA-shoe-AH or YES-sue-ay or some other. If you get them in a room with someone who is actually a linguist expert who knows something about Aramaic and Hebrew though, they stare at their shoes a bit and then do a lot of hand waving. Don't get me wrong, I love learning learning His original name......but I can pray to him using the name Jesus. Legalism is a terrible road, however, once you down the one way street.

[editor-surveyor]

And please forgive Elsie, he is a hopelessly lost churchian that would like to believe that Yeshua, and his apostles didn’t mean a word they said or wrote.
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[editor-surveyor]

The “Anglicized name is Joshua. (which is pronounced just like Yeshua)

“Jesus” is not an anglicized version of Yeshua, it is the anglicized version of the rabinical curse YSHU, which is an acronym of the full curse “Yimach Shimo Vezichro” which means “May his name forgotten and never remembered.”

The Greek translators either knew no better, or agreed with the Rabbis. It is interesting to note though that the English Bible translators corrected the Greek error for the prophet Joshua of the Old testament, but not for our Savior.

You can check all the Greek texts or Strongs, and see that the Greeks used the same name for both, but the KJV translators only saw fit to make the correction for one of them. Hmmmm.

The Holy Spirit is working among the elect to cause us to use the correct names, and eventually all of his sheep will do so.

[editor-surveyor]

“Jesus’” lips said different.

He said that those that love him keep his commandments.

In Hebrews, Paul was lamenting that some would fail to do so, much as the generation that left Egypt did, and thus not find his rest.

So you think he is wrong?

[reasonisfaith]

But an explanation is implausible if it opposes established historical truth.

That Christ’s tomb was found to be empty within days of his crucifixion and death is accepted as true by mainstream historians.

[editor-surveyor]

>> Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?”
Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.” <<

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To find out what that belief fully means, go to John’s first epistle. He makes it quite plain therein.
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[editor-surveyor]

Some prefer “Strong Delusion.”

[Elsie]

AMEN!

[Elsie]

And please forgive Elsie, he is a hopelessly lost churchian that would like to believe that Yeshua, and his apostles didn’t mean a word they said or wrote.

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Acts 17:18-19
 18.  A group of Epicurean and Stoic philosophers began to dispute with him. Some of them asked, "What is this babbler trying to say?" Others remarked, "He seems to be advocating foreign gods." They said this because Paul was preaching the good news about Jesus and the resurrection.
 19.  Then they took him and brought him to a meeting of the Areopagus, where they said to him, "May we know what this new teaching is that you are presenting?

 

Acts 18:11
    So Paul stayed for a year and a half, teaching them the word of God.

 

 

 

 

 

Romans 15:4
 For everything that was written in the past was written to teach us, so that through endurance and the encouragement of the Scriptures we might have hope.

 

 

Romans 16:17
   I urge you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them.

 

 

1 Corinthians 4:17
   For this reason I am sending to you Timothy, my son whom I love, who is faithful in the Lord. He will remind you of my way of life in Christ Jesus, which agrees with what I teach everywhere in every church.

 

 

1 Corinthians 11:2
 2.  I praise you for remembering me in everything and for holding to the teachings,  just as I passed them on to you.

 

 

Ephesians 4:14-15
 14.  Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of men in their deceitful scheming.
 15.  Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will in all things grow up into him who is the Head, that is, Christ.

 

 

2 Thessalonians 2:15
   So then, brothers, stand firm and hold to the teachings  we passed on to you, whether by word of mouth or by letter.

 

 

2 Thessalonians 3:6
  In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, we command you, brothers, to keep away from every brother who is idle and does not live according to the teaching  you received from us.

 

 

1 Timothy 1:3-4
 3.  As I urged you when I went into Macedonia, stay there in Ephesus so that you may command certain men not to teach false doctrines any longer
 4.  nor to devote themselves to myths and endless genealogies. These promote controversies rather than God's work--which is by faith.

 

 

1 Timothy 1:7
  They want to be teachers of the law, but they do not know what they are talking about or what they so confidently affirm.

 

 

1 Timothy 2:7
   And for this purpose I was appointed a herald and an apostle--I am telling the truth, I am not lying--and a teacher of the true faith to the Gentiles.

 

 

1 Timothy 4:1-2
 1.  The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.
 2.  Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron.

 

 

1 Timothy 4:6
   If you point these things out to the brothers, you will be a good minister of Christ Jesus, brought up in the truths of the faith and of the good teaching that you have followed.

 

 

1 Timothy 4:11
  Command and teach these things.

 

 

1 Timothy 6:3-5
 3.  If anyone teaches false doctrines and does not agree to the sound instruction of our Lord Jesus Christ and to godly teaching,
 4.  he is conceited and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy interest in controversies and quarrels about words that result in envy, strife, malicious talk, evil suspicions 
 5.  and constant friction between men of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain.

 

 

2 Timothy 1:13
  What you heard from me, keep as the pattern of sound teaching, with faith and love in Christ Jesus.

 

 

 2 Timothy 2:15-17
 15.  Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a workman who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth.
 16.  Avoid godless chatter, because those who indulge in it will become more and more ungodly.
 17.  Their teaching will spread like gangrene.

 

 

2 Timothy 3:16-17
 16.  All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,
 17.  so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.

 

 

 2 Timothy 4:3-4
  3.  For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.
  4.  They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.

 

 

Titus 1:11
   They must be silenced, because they are ruining whole households by teaching things they ought not to teach--and that for the sake of dishonest gain.

 

 

Titus 2:1
  You must teach what is in accord with sound doctrine.

 

 

Titus 2:15
  These, then, are the things you should teach. Encourage and rebuke with all authority. Do not let anyone despise you.

 

 

 Hebrews 13:9
 Do not be carried away by all kinds of strange teachings.

 

 

 2 Peter 2:1-3
 1.  But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
 2.  Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
 3.  In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.

 

 

2 John 1:10
  If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take him into your house or welcome him.

[Elsie]

So you think he is wrong?

NOW you care what I think?

[Elsie]

Get that cupie doll from the High Shelf; for we have a WINNER!!

But an explanation is implausible if it opposes established historical truth.

[Elsie]

To find out what that belief fully means, go to John’s first epistle. He makes it quite plain therein.

Thanks for reminding me...

1 John 3:21

Dear friends, if our hearts do not condemn us, we have confidence before God and receive from him anything we ask, because we keep his commands and do what pleases him. And this is his command: to believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as he commanded us. 

[HiTech RedNeck]

“Keeping the commandments” (viewed CORRECTLY which is independent of your Judaizing mis-theology, i.e. there are valid Gentile implementations of this) follows from receiving love from Him.

SOMETHING of obedience should and will be seen in a Christian life, yes.

PERFECTION is not attained in this world, and we are forgiven for where we fall short. Not excused — forgiven. We know that it’s sin. We become perfect only in glory.

Confess it! You want the proud power position of putting people behind an eight ball that you jolly well know they won’t be out from behind until they reach glory. Jesus had very brown words for the Pharisees who did this. They were trying to interpose themselves between God and the people, like you are trying to do so now with your idiosyncratic, eisegetic theology.

The power position belongs ONLY to Jesus. And when He forgives He forgives, and when He guides He guides. You conflate your Judaizing with God’s actual plan.

[HiTech RedNeck]

You won’t find such a causational nexus in Hebrews anyhow.

Poor ole e-s is trying to earn his rest through obedience... and he can’t.

It is salvational power that pulls the wagon.

[SkyPilot]

Thank you very much. Although I have read others who have different views on whether it was Anglicanized from Jeshua or Joshua, or whether Yeshu was the name used by Aramaic speakers during the early church.

There is one name by which we are saved - His. Is it important to look at the roots of Judaism in Christianity? Absolutely. Are some of the Jewish Roots Movement followers adopting cult-like practices? I believe the answer is yes for some of them.

The roots of our faith are important. I do not believe in replacement theology. But I don't have to worship on Saturday instead of Sunday. I study the feast days, and their importance, but the focus is on Jesus. Paul said we cannot come to faith in Christ through the Torah. We don't need to return to the Law after the Cross. The Law was nailed to the cross. The emphasis on the old covenant makes the works of the Law supreme.

First there was the Law. Then Christ gave us Grace.

The Jewish or Hebrew Roots Movement wants to revert (in part) back to Law.

The Bible is really one story, not "Old" and "New" in the truest sense. And Grace is the ultimate progression that Jesus suffered and died for, but conquered through resurrection.

If you don't use a certain pronunciation for His name, it has nothing to do with your salvation. That is hyper legalism. There are others that teach that if you don't keep the proper Sabbath you are not saved. Or if you don't keep the dietary laws you are not saved. Nonsense.

Paul had many, many. many things to say regarding this subject, and he rebuked those in the strongest terms who attempted to bring the church backwards, away from Grace.

Christ fulfilled the Law.

I have seen literal miracles in people's live who prayed to Jesus, using the name Jesus. Evil has been repulsed using the name Jesus. I have seen people saved from Hell using the name Jesus. While I think it is important to know the original form, I don't have to use the Aramaic, Hebrew, or Greek word when I pray to Him.

[Sam's Army]

Outstanding post.

[HiTech RedNeck]

The Jewish or Hebrew Roots Movement wants to revert (in part) back to Law.

And if it would identify itself by name it might be more respected, even. Instead its followers just come preaching out of the blue. Even Jehovah's Witnesses and Scientologists will tell you that they are Jehovah's Witnesses and Scientologists. They might be wrong but they aren't ashamed of the name of their following.

e-s and similar folks are asking too little, not too much, of Christians. As I pointed out some time back, Christ is seen everywhere in the bible. Trying to tie Him to a delineated handful of celebrations is to empester the gospel.