Posted on 04/15/2014 7:42:17 AM PDT by Kaslin
Nevada cattle rancher Cliven Bundy and his well-armed supporters forced the well-armed federal government to back down and return Bundy's seized cows -- which were seized because Bundy, 67, stopped paying grazing fees in 1993. How does anyone get the government to back down?
At first blush, Bundy seemed to have right on his side. He's a cowboy who just wants to keep being a cowboy.
The federal government, which owns more than 80 percent of Nevada land, including the land on which the Bundy family had settled, threatened to put him out to pasture. The Bureau of Land Management told the rancher he would have to cut back cattle grazing on federal lands to accommodate the threatened desert tortoise. So in 1993, Bundy stopped paying federal grazing fees. "They were managing my ranch out of business," Bundy explained, "so I refused to pay."
As the Las Vegas Review-Journal editorialized, the federal government has endangered a Western way of life in deference to "the 'threatened' desert tortoise and a supposedly fragile desert ecosystem that somehow has sustained cattle and the reptiles since the 19th century."
The BLM surely has earned its black-hat reputation in Nevada. In a classic example of federal overreach, the BLM carved out a small "First Amendment Area" for pro-Bundy protesters, which only fueled the public's distrust of government. Nevada Gov. Brian Sandoval suggested that the BLM reconsider its approach to constitutional rights -- and Sandoval's a former federal judge, whom you would expect to stand up for the federal court orders Bundy is flouting.
Sandoval issued a statement before the BLM backed down in which he argued, "No cow justifies the atmosphere of intimidation" that he was placing on BLM's doorstep.
That sentiment ought to apply to Bundy, as well. The rancher says he does not recognize the authority of federal courts. "I abide by all of Nevada state laws," Breitbart Texas reports that the scion told talk radio. "But I don't recognize the United States government as even existing."
He was willing to start a "range war" and risk the lives of his supporters in order to retrieve some cows. He doesn't feel he has to recognize a government elected by his fellow citizens.
The BLM clearly can be accused of overreach, but who elected Bundy to be judge, jury and sheriff?
Bundy could have fought the government at the ballot box by trying to elect members of Congress who want to defang the BLM. (It's strange when you realize that for all their anti-Washington sentiments, Nevada voters have sent Harry Reid to the Senate repeatedly since 1986.) That's the American way. Threatening to shoot law enforcement officers who simply are carrying out court orders is not
The state of Nevada can probably sue the BLM on some ground of tortious interference I would guess.
Well, maybe not. The feds are acting in accordance with nearly half of this country, and maybe more, to take and redistribute. It is one helluva sad representation.
Do you have sources for this?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/social-security-treasury-target-hundreds-of-thousands-of-taxpayers-for-parents-old-debts/2014/04/10/74ac8eae-bf4d-11e3-bcec-b71ee10e9bc3_story.html?hpid=z1
Apparently, the Farm Bill had such language in it...
Imagine—going after WORKING Americans for their parents ‘debts’ —not proven—and using that money to pay for more people on welfare & food stamps. Foodstamps originate in the Farm Bills.
Most people would not have any records from years past involveing the last days/months/years of their parents. I sure would demand a complete accounting of how they arrived at such a seizure of any of my money.
PS:
The BLM charges for every competitor that enters those events they are now denying!! Charges range from $3.50 per person to $5.00 per person. They are denying income to themselves!!! Can any of these persons pass a 5t1-50 test???
PPS: Yes, I AM PISSED!!!
The last line of “Checks and Balances” defense for “We, the People” was the Republican Leadership in the US House of Representatives until late 2014.
When Reid and Obama shut down part of the US Federal Government last Autumn, that same Republican Leadership in the US House caved in to “Stonewall” Reid, and “No Negotiation” Obama, leaving “We, the People” with no Federal protection from the well documented, arrogant tyranny of the Obama Administration, and the Godless Democrat Party.
Now “We, the People” are given a rare gifted opportunity to change our failed Republican Leadership in the US House and Senate, as we stand witness to the tyrannical brute force of the most powerful Nation that the World has ever known being leveled against an aged and last Rancher in Clark County, Nevada.
Our patience with the cowardly Republican Members in the US House of Representatives is nearly gone, as we wait with dimming hope for them to quickly replace Boehner, McCarthy, Cantor, Issa, Rogers, King of NY, and Ryan with fire-in-the-belly Leaders such as Trey Gowdy, Wilson of SC, and Gomert of TEXAS.
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The BFLM is currently a more accurate abbreviation of the BLM.
The BFLM is the abbreviation for the Bureau of FEUDAL Land Management.
Feudalism is what Europe was based on, and if it was good enough for Europe, then it is good enough for America!
Currently, the purpose of the BFLM is to provide land, free of charge, to the Commune-organized Obamanation to do with as the ruling Senate and Administration Feudal Lord Democrats see fit.
Predictions are that the cave-in Doormat Republican Leaders will, as usual, just huff and puff on TV, as required by the 2 year Congressional “No Fight Deal” that Ryan, Pelosi, Reid and Obama have forced them to sign.
Obama now knows in his smug arrogance that his “Obamanation Transformation of the United States of America” will continue unchallenged as long as Boehner and McConnell are kept in power as leaders in Congress.
“All ye lowly, collateral-damaged, Feudal Serfs bow to thine arrogant Feudal Democrat Lords!”
FORWARD!
The voters that sent Reid to D.C. are mostly from the shady side of citizenship including illegal immigrants and their enablers.
Local news past few days. Apparently, as people are getting —or NOT getting —their refunds, they are being blindsided.
Some are getting a ‘letter’, but I get the impression that the details are lacking. As a life-long bookkeeper, I would be screaming my head off. One of my parents died in 1964. The other in 1980. Now, I am retired, and I would be burning down the IRS buildings if they tried to reduce my Social Sec over this.
My mother didn’t live long enough to collect any Soc Sec, and my Dad was only getting $252 a month when he died in Dec 19802. I had been supporting alot of his life for the prior 8 years. I even paid the entire bill for his funeral—& I have 3 brothers.
With the election Fraud it for sure isn’t an honest representation.
The entrenched GOP is certainly quiet about this issue with Bundy.....and they are targeting the Tea Party.
How many voters will vote for Tea Party candidates before Nov elections are over?
I have been a registered Republican all of my life & I am now 74. I will not vote for a GOP establishment member if I have a Tea Party candidate available to me instead.
I see/hear what you are saying and tend to believe there is something(s) Bundy seems to be missing or ignoring. On the other hand there are somethings that Bundy speaks to that need to be seriously taken. For example, I believe we now know why those thousands of rounds of ammo were bought by the Feds ‘civilian’ BLM department. We now know the Feds are willing to repeat such incidents as Ruby Ridge and Branch Davidians to show the USA how strong government can be to ‘protect’ our safety and culture. Put these alongside the many khaki clothed, helmet heads, the deployed marksman to assure the few bad guys do not come out alive, and the available backup of tanks and flamethrowers to erase any visible remains, and you can see the conscience of our today’s government is not changed. Out of all this I would like to have all those jackbooted ‘American’ sunshine warriors on public display like they would have the likes of the Bundys.
Nope. He never signed a contract with them.
It is posted quite often that the contract included specific abuses of power such as his being forced to limit the size of his herd.
Nevada is an open range state and the law is unclear about this, but there have been cases where grandfathering in is accepted by the courts. In the last 20 years I believe.
When the feds come and tell you how to maintain your home I hope you step up and obey.
Post of the day and it is only 10 am here. Thank you so much.
I never said he had a a contract. I said he had an understanding. Big difference.
You really don't understand the difference between owning a home and using someone else's land to graze your livestock?
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