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What if the government guaranteed you an income?
CNN ^ | April 14, 2014 | David R. Wheeler

Posted on 04/15/2014 3:42:42 AM PDT by kingattax

First, the bad news: Even if the economy improves, middle-class career paths will continue to disappear as globalization and technological innovation render more jobs obsolete.

Now, the good news: The fear, stress and humiliation caused by unemployment (and underemployment) can be alleviated with a simple solution.

And now, the even-better news: This simple solution is starting to find backers on both sides of the political spectrum.

A monthly cash payment to every American, no questions asked, would solve several of our most daunting challenges.

It's called a basic income, and it's cheaper and much more effective than our current malfunctioning safety net, which costs nearly $1 trillion per year.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


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To: goldstategop

I wouldn’t even begin to consider this unless everyone on it gives up their right to vote.


41 posted on 04/15/2014 5:31:47 AM PDT by PLMerite
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To: kingattax
Even if the economy improves, middle-class career paths will continue to disappear as globalization and technological innovation render more jobs obsolete.

All too true. After millions of jobs have been exported to cheap labor nations and millions more are expected to eliminated by continuing automation, some sort of guaranteed income for adults could become the only solution.

As much as many will not like that, there will be few alternatives if globalization (movement of jobs to cheap labor nations) and other trends continue as at present.

Or, we could actually produce in the country what's consumed in this country and push these developments much further into the future.

42 posted on 04/15/2014 5:38:15 AM PDT by Will88
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To: goldstategop

‘For criminals flouting the rules of society is the point....They need to be locked up. A basic income program is for law-abiding people who want a better life for themselves and their families.’
I don’t know whether you have noticed it or not but there are 100’s of thousands of laws and regulations on the books of Fed, state, and local governments. The regulations have the force of law behind them. You expect people to know all these BS laws and obey them and then be rewarded with someone else’s money?
God only gave us 10 laws and I know no one who obeys them all. Are you saying this in jest or are you out of your fracking mind? We are all criminals in the eyes of the various governments and will always be if we even disagree with one of their chickenchit laws. You sure you are on the right website? ‘flouting the rules of society’ is the reason why there is a United States. It is a time honored tradition, if our forefathers had not disobeyed the laws of King George we would still be a bunch of wig wearing colonists.
I hope you were joking or forgot to take your meds this morning.


43 posted on 04/15/2014 5:38:46 AM PDT by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: kingattax

economics of misery and decline - bump for later....


44 posted on 04/15/2014 5:49:40 AM PDT by indthkr
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To: I want the USA back
Say $30,000. Now 30,000 is the new zero. Prices will rise to eat up the new-found money. The amount will have to be raised because of rising prices.

Not if the productivity gains from continuing automation and globalization (cheap labor) produce the products more efficiently. Supply and demand will still be in play and the new productivity paradigms should produce more goods and services with lower cost inputs.

45 posted on 04/15/2014 5:49:51 AM PDT by Will88
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To: demshateGod

And that is SPENDABLE discretionary income. Virtually no taxes except for FICA for OASDI and Medicare (if they even have a job).


46 posted on 04/15/2014 5:51:39 AM PDT by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: dforest

Welfare already is a guaranteed income without the name.

Government gives them shelter and sets aside money for food, medicine and a small amount for incidentals.


47 posted on 04/15/2014 5:56:01 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: kingattax

What is the government going to do when people use all the money in the first few days of the moth? WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN??!!!


48 posted on 04/15/2014 6:01:30 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: varyouga

No the taxpayers have that money forced from them to support all that. This guaranteed income would be no different. Where else does the money come from?

This could end up being more costly because it would never be enough to please the masses. Especially those who want a raise for doing nothing.


49 posted on 04/15/2014 6:04:46 AM PDT by dforest
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To: goldstategop

“Its been around for a long time now and deserves serious consideration”

OK I gave it serious consideration.

Nope, still a stupid idea.


50 posted on 04/15/2014 6:08:22 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: kingattax

The ONE sensible form of this: when injecting new cash into the money supply, it should be by spreading it among the people who form this country (not convoluted cronyism).


51 posted on 04/15/2014 6:16:58 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.)
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To: bert

that commercial bugs the sh*t out of me . .


52 posted on 04/15/2014 6:18:10 AM PDT by ßuddaßudd (>> F U B O << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
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To: IMR 4350

Eliminate welfare. Change food stamps to rice and beans-a complete protein. Might do something about the obesity problem. Last a flat tax for EVERYONE.


53 posted on 04/15/2014 6:19:53 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: goldstategop

“A guaranteed basic income would cover basic survival necessities - shelter, food, transportation and health care”
Sound exactly as it was in Soviet Union. Have you, “goldstategop”, experienced it personally? Their “shelter”, their so-called food, transportation and health care? The limit was 9 square yards of “shelter” per person, if you were lucky to get it. Would you, “goldstategop”, be comfortable living alone or with your family in a “shelter” of that size built for you by your government? Don’t get me started on the rest of basic survival necessities.....


54 posted on 04/15/2014 6:21:23 AM PDT by exinnj
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To: dforest

The Gibsmedats will never be satisfied.


55 posted on 04/15/2014 6:22:24 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

Exactly, I hate this idea that just because you exist, you “deserve” a living and all the amenities to boot.


56 posted on 04/15/2014 6:28:47 AM PDT by dforest
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To: kingattax

What if you just STFU, David R. Wheeler, before spewing any more idiocy?


57 posted on 04/15/2014 6:30:25 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: DIRTYSECRET

“Eliminate welfare. Change food stamps to rice and beans”

So you are already advocating a food stamp program to go along with it?

Thank you.

You just made my point why it’s a stupid idea.

If you are already advocating adding a food stamp program with it, what in the world could possibly make you believe the dems wouldn’t bring back all of the other programs?


58 posted on 04/15/2014 6:36:26 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: kingattax

Will I have to work (work in my best Maynard G. Krebbs) for it? That would be a killer.


59 posted on 04/15/2014 7:09:52 AM PDT by depressed in 06 (America conceived in liberty, dies in slavery.)
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To: kingattax

***A monthly cash payment to every American, no questions asked, would solve several of our most daunting challenges.***

It works for my worthless Brother-in-law(If you know him he probably owes you money).

He walked off his last job in 1981 (”I ain’t gonna pay taxes to Reagan!”), went on the public dole and has not worked a day since.

How did he do it? He put his wife to work, parleyed a high school football injury into a military injury, got VA help, got Social Security crazy checks for his kids. Sued a store for slipping on ice, got a payout, Now he is really disabled and begging for help from us, and we don’t have it.

All was well till his wife lost her job two years ago.


60 posted on 04/15/2014 7:57:47 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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