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To: volunbeer

We won’t starve without Bundy’s cows. All he had to do was pay the grazing rights - it’s not much and he could still have made a profit just like my neighbor.

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That sentence shows that you didn’t understand the point I was trying to make. I am not saying anything about heroes, heck, I didn’t even say the guy was 100% right.

But he’s not 100% wrong either. And my main point was that of the poor judgement of the government, highhanded methods of the government, the disengeiousness of the government, and the fact that the BLM stated and appeared to be ready to kill men, women and children over tresspassing - which last I heard was not a capital offense.

From the government’s own comments, they had other legal recourse, but instead they decided on an unwise course of action. As far as support, Bundy seemed to have plenty.

Now I could go on about mistakes etc that Bundy has made, and things that he could have or should have done differently, but that was not my concern either.

My concern is an overreaching Fedzilla and their minions who are more and more willing to treat the men, women, and children citizens of the USA like gun fodder over Tresspassing.

Meanwhile they allow Millions of illegals to tresspass all over the country, which includes criminals, drug cartels, slavers, and people with contagious diseases.

All of which is more threatening and harmful than a bunch of cows tresspassing and also costs the taxpayers a whole bunch more money that the measly fees for mediation.

Well, Bundy ain’t my kid nor is he kin, so his behavior is not my responsibility. However, what the government does is my responsibility, because they are supposed to be serving me and all the millions of other citizens, and I do care how they do whatever job they are supposed to be doing, and they ain’t exactly coming up smelling like roses.

Now, thanks for your opinion, but to me there’s lots more to this than he should have paid his fees. Obviously, you can’t get beyond that. It takes 2 to tango, and Bundy ain’t perfect, but neither is the government.

Now I am done with the coversation, because there is no point to it. It will likely just lead to both of us repeating various statements adnauseum, and then someone start getting personal and resorts to name calling. So I’m done. Have a nice night.


414 posted on 04/14/2014 11:08:37 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

Thanks for the post @414. I will not call you names and you made many good points.

I would point out that the current situation with Bundy and his cattle only came about after a lengthy court process where he did not prevail. While the timing is a bit suspect to me with Reid and his sons business dancing around in the back of my head, I am pretty sure the first order for him to remove the cattle was issued long ago. Despite these facts, his range use continued and he never entered into a contract to use the property.

What was left for BLM to do? How many times should he be told to remove the cattle from land that was not his? The next step is to remove the cattle. Given the past history and perceived threats (who knows - I was not there) they brought along a ridiculous amount of law enforcement to protect unarmed people trying to remove cows.

The cost of this whole thing is ridiculous, but then again, when has government ever done anything cheaply? Bundy created a situation that caused the government to squander millions of borrowed dollars and now it’s for naught. How much did he save himself by not paying for graze like others do? This may cost us more than the White House vacation program before it’s over.

FRegards


428 posted on 04/15/2014 12:40:43 AM PDT by volunbeer
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