Are you there God? It's me, Bartram (Libs want God back in school)

Philadelphia Daily News ^ | 04/13/2014 | Helen Ubinas

[Kid Shelleen]

--snip-- This was Thursday night and the two were part of a community meeting on the recent highly publicized violent incidents at the school, including a couple of lunchtime brawls and an assault on a conflict-resolution specialist by a 17-year-old student. Yes, a man charged to keep the peace got his skull fractured.

At the start of the meeting, God got a shout-out by one of the speakers. It probably wasn't a bad idea. Given the disagreements over what caused the problems at Bartram, and what it's going to take to fix them, divine intervention may be the only solution. And please, baby Jesus, keep what happened at Bartram from playing out at other understaffed and consolidated schools.

[Kid Shelleen]

Case study in failed liberal policies. (The school was named after John Bartram a world famous botanist and horticulturist. He must be turning in his grave.)

[ilovesarah2012]

I graduated high school in 1970. We had a very large school - approximately 3000 students and we had two shifts. We did not have “resource officers”. We had zero shootings or stabbings. I did not know of one girl who was pregnant. Our school did not have a daycare for students’ babies. For the most part, we liked and respected our teachers. At the entrance of the school was the school seal in the floor. No one walked over it out of respect. I understand that today it is roped off so no one walks on it.

How far we as a society have fallen.

[Oratam]

And please, baby Jesus, keep what happened at . . .

The mention of God makes them uncomfortable, so they respond with mocking . . . and the Philadelphia Daily News is considered a serious newspaper.

[jocon307]

You did not include the link to the whole article. I’d like to read more about the poor man who got his skull fractured, I mean that’s more than a punch in the nose.

[Former Proud Canadian]

You forgot a few things. No metal detectors. No guards. No locked doors.

One thing we did have in abundance then that is in short supply today, shame. No one has it any more, from the president on down.

[SkyPilot]

Godlessness has very real and terrible political, philosophical, and personal ramifications.

We are now Godless nation. Our courts, schools, and institutions have hunted down any scintilla of Him, and chased Him out.

The concept of "self" and selfish sin takes off like the Ebola virus unless we are constrained by that which is Holy. Rampant secularization has led to a loss of worship. We now have out of control pluralization, where our nation tells us there is no absolute truth, and all ideas must be given equal standing. In fact, the only ideas NOT given standing are God's standards.

Our politicians, leaders, and citizens act with ZERO sense of shame.

"If the foundations be destroyed, what can the righteous do?"

Psalm 11:3

The solution is what it always was: repent, ask God for forgiveness, and cry out to Him for His love and mercy.

Unless that is accomplished, no program, no amount of money, and political "savior" will make one bit of difference.

[ilovesarah2012]

I also forget teacher-student sex. If it went on, we sure didn’t know anything about it. Our schools, as well as our nation, are now cesspools.

[wintertime]

Is there a link to an article?

The most important thing to understand is that **NO** school can be religiously neutral. Such a state of philosophic neutrality can not exist in the mind of any sentient being.

When government schools are godless they are teaching godlessness. The children MUST think and reason godlessly just to cooperate in the godless classroom.

Yet,... if government schools were to teach a God-centered worldview, what specific religious worldview should be chosen? And...Please remember that generic and lukewarm is offensive to many Christians. The Bible warns that Christ spits the lukewarm out of His mouth.

So?...How to solve the problem? Answer: IT CAN”T!

Solution: Begin the process of privatizing all education. Get the government ( on **ALL** levels) out of the education business!

[facedown]

http://www.philly.com/philly/education/20140413_God_help_Philly_s_public_schools.html

[Biggirl]

“”If the foundations be destroyed, what can the righteous do?”

Psalm 11:3

The solution is what it always was: repent, ask God for forgiveness, and cry out to Him for His love and mercy.

Unless that is accomplished, no program, no amount of money, and political “savior” will make one bit of difference.”

Also add, “believe” first as well even before repenting.

[Kid Shelleen]

here is the link to the article. Sorry about that all.
http://www.philly.com/philly/education/20140413_God_help_Philly_s_public_schools.html

[TurkeyLurkey]

“And please, baby Jesus, keep what happened at Bartram from playing out at other understaffed and consolidated schools.”

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After that I could read no further.

Our nation has moved away from God, rejected His Son, His only provision for the foregiveness of our sins.

He hasn’t gone anywhere, but reaches out to mankind, saying “Come to Me, all who are weary and heavy-laden, and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you, and learn from Me, for I am gentle and humble in heart; and YOU SHALL FIND REST FOR YOUR SOULS. (Matthew 11:28-29)

Because of people’s stubborness and unrepentant hearts, they are storing up wrath for themselves in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God, who WILL RENDER TO EVERY MAN ACCORDING TO HIS DEEDS; (Romans 2:5-6, Ps. 62:12)

God is holy. He is real. His home is in heaven. Sin cannot and will not exist in heaven.

For believers in the Lord Jesus Christ, who have repented from their sins and believed in Him, it is said:

“God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from the wrath of God through Him. For if while we were enemies, we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life.” (Romans 5:8-10)

And all true Christians have died with Christ,have been buried with Him, and have been raised up with Him to walk in newness of life. The new life in Christ is possible only by His and His Father’s presence within the person who has repented and believed, through the indwelling Holy Spirit.

Individuals live in nations, and we are individually called, but whenever sin has not been punished and has been allowed to continue, it grows and infests and takes over, and a whole nation will suffer the consequences. God’s dealings with Israel in the Bible give us all the information we need to look at our own “national sins” and to repent, by His mercy and grace.

Read Psalm 2:12.

[KosmicKitty]

One thing we did have in abundance then that is in short supply today, shame. No one has it any more, from the president on down.

Shame requires that one have grasped the concept of personal responsibility for one's actions.

Now, everyone is a victim, so he/she is not responsible for their actions. They can blame someone else. Hence, no shame.

[Former Proud Canadian]

I agree. I think it started with Clinton. Lack of shame, candor, humility, standards became the new normal. Your current leadership has taken this to a whole new level.

[wintertime]

The solution is what it always was: repent, ask God for forgiveness, and cry out to Him for His love and mercy.
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Will God have mercy upon a nation whose parents **willingly** place their children in a godless school environment? These children **will** learn to think and reason godlessly. They must just to cooperate in the godless classroom.

Solution: We as a nation MUST shut down these godless, single-payer, and socialist-entitlement schools! We must begin the process of privatizing all education in this nation. Only in a private school can the child get a thoroughly God-centered education that is not generically lukewarm in its worldview.

Putting a generic and lukewarm God back into the government's single-payer schools is NOT a solution. What does Christ do with the lukewarm? He spits them out of His mouth!

Finally, why should God save this nation? As I drive through deep red counties and states in this nation I see the godless single-payer K-12 schools stuffed full to the brim with children of conservatives and Christians. If these Christians and conservatives removed their children the godless system of K-12 indoctrination would immediately collapse! Yet...They remain open.

I suppose free babysitting and team sports are powerfully addicting.

[Servant of the Cross]

We Need God In America Again

[wintertime]

It started with the very first single-payer and socialist-entitlement schools in the mid-1800s to early 1900s. It only took one to three generations of single-payer government schools ( with its lukewarm and generic Protestantism) to give the nation the progressives Woodrow Wilson and Franklin D. Roosevelt.

[wintertime]

That isn’t going to happen when the vast majority of the nation’s children attend godless and single-payer socialist-entitlement schools!

Why would God save a nation whose parents would willingly send their children into schools that teach children to think and reason godlessly? Its a millstone thing.

[St_Thomas_Aquinas]

Will God have mercy upon a nation whose parents **willingly** place their children in a godless school environment?

This may be a "hard saying," but someone has to say it.

[wintertime]

My heart is broken every time I drive by a godless K-12 single-payer school.

It’s like watching a train wreck in slow motion.