[JimSEA]

Nothing to do with tortoises and everything to do with property rights. The head of the BLM (Reid’s former senior aid) is bringing this to a head after 20 years of back and forth.

There is nothing the Feds would like better than for one of the militia types to threaten or open fire. I have mixed thoughts. There isn’t any doubt that the Feds are pushing this at this time for political reasons. They can’t have the next election on Obamacare so they’re going for something bigger.

The individual LEOs are, for the most part just doing their jobs. The ranchers in Nevada who I know will support Bundy 100%. They know the nazi BLM.

We can’t take this crap much longer. Our rights and freedom are being regulated and PCed away.

[Domandred]

The individual LEOs are, for the most part just doing their jobs

The first "job" of any LEO is their oath which is to protect and defend the Constitution. A job that a very large majority of them are not doing.

[Oatka]

The individual LEOs are, for the most part just doing their jobs.

Jawohl, they were "chust following ordersss".

[cripplecreek]

The individual LEOs are, for the most part just doing their jobs.

True enough and I don't see much of a push to lean on congress over this. People can confront the police and win in the short term but a real lasting win will be found in the state legislature and in congress.

[LeoWindhorse]

yet ‘we the people of Nevada’ keep electing that a-hole Harry Reid . You know he’s behind all this ....
The ‘we the people types’ love to show up , except on voting day . THAT is the day they should all show up to vote , dragging every friend and relative with them . They should also tell ALL their friends and neighbors that if they vote for any Democrats , people like the Clark Co. commissioner that is telling outsiders that wish to support the Bundys to should plan to have their own funerals .... WE let them get in office and then we barely hold them accountable and their is no tangible downside for official maleficence. Small skirmishes to not win the war . We need to start seeing it as a war and start planning how to tangibly WIN the war .

[Daffynition]

Mr. Bundy relayed that the desert tortoises taken to a *refuge/conservation area* are being euthanized by the hundreds b/c of budget cuts.

http://www.natureworldnews.com/articles/3668/20130826/desert-tortoise-sanctuary-close-inhabitants-euthanized.htm

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[Vince Ferrer]

There is nothing the Feds would like better than for one of the militia types to threaten or open fire. I have mixed thoughts. There isn’t any doubt that the Feds are pushing this at this time for political reasons. They can’t have the next election on Obamacare so they’re going for something bigger.

I agree with you wholeheartedly. It is very important that no hotheads start domething that will make the BLM or Obama look good.