Posted on 04/10/2014 8:02:04 PM PDT by naturalman1975
THERE are unconfirmed reports that the black box flight recorder from missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 has been found.
Perth radio station 6PR tweeted the report, citing aviation expert Geoffrey Thomas.
Prime Minister Tony Abbott, who is in China, is giving a pre-planned press conference at 2pm AEST.
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We were able to get info off the Cockpit Voice Recorder as maintenance techs. They had a headphone jack for testing purposes. You have to be able to test them to make sure they work. No need to go back to Boeing as the safety agencies all have the ability to read the data.
Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea.
Order Captain Crane out in the mini sub, he can fly it out, submerge and retrieve the black box and then fly it out to base in no time!
Better yet, send Dr. Tony Newman and Dr. Doug Phillips out through The Time Tunnel and they can keep the plane from ever going down!
Sky News Australia just addressed this precise point. Says Angus Houston's comments referred to earlier media reports, not to Prime Minister Abbott's statements.
I definitely have ZERO trust in the Malaysian Govt..they have been lying since the beginning..so now we hear the 5th “Ping” is unrelated to the black box..so here is my question, if the 5th ping is not from the black box(And the sound sounded just like a pinger from the box) how do we know if ALL the pings also did not come from the box
I worked the early versions. It was a metallic roll and scribes that scratched the info unto the metal. Virtually indestructible.
PM Abbott seems to be jumping the gun here..Houston has been top notch since this all started..I trust him over anyone else..he wants to give honest information to the families
queenland on the northeast is bout to be slammed w/ a cat 5 hurricane
They are solid state and digital, and have been for many years. They record on flash memory.
There is a third recorder option, the QAR, which many modern airliners have. It is also digital, and designed to have it’s memory module easily removeable and readable with ordinary desktop computers.
BA Flight 38, a 777-200ER built in 2001, had all 3 digital recorders.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BA038
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quick_access_recorder
I saw them demonstrating one after some crash a few years ago and it was a wire recorder. It really surprised me because in the late 50’s, early 60’s my dad had a wire recorder and I was amazed that it could record stuff.
For an aviation black box it is perfect because of its durability to the elements, water, etc and can be recorded over almost indefinitely, unlike tape. As well, a whole lot of recording time can be stored in a small package.
Now, the foil recorder you are talking about.......did it come over on the Santa Maria? LOL, LOL.
Learn sumpin every day.
Durability in fire? Durability in water if case is breached, especially in depths of 20,000 feet?
You mean Mike Nelson! Please! This means something to some of us.
But its true that the 5th ping has been confirmed to NOT be related to the plane? If thats the case then how do we know the rest of the pings have any relation to the plane..for days all I have been hearing is that these types of pings are not created by anything natural in the ocean, only from man made technology, if this 5th ping thing is true I guess it can be
Scuttling the plane as far as possible from where it was diverted in the deepest water where it would likely never be found at the coordinates where a ship was waiting to pick up the pilot.
And while everyone was trying to figure out where it went and arguing over terrorists, fires in the cockpit, landing strips in Pakistan and Diego Garcia, and the lithium batteries and mangosteens onboard, the ship had over a week and now a month to make its getaway.
Ocean Shield moved out of the search area about two hours ago, and HMS Echo has moved in.
http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/home
That pinging isn’t in my head?
They are incredibly durable as far as fire, G forces and damage.
2,000F and 100G
The CVR must record 2 hours of data, and the FDR must record 25 hours of data.
They have been found after many years under water with retrievable data.
Taking damage:
Five torture tests check the durability of black box design. one unit must survive all the tests:
1. Impact shock: Tests the ability of the recorder to survive the impact of a crash. The recorder is fired from an air cannon at 500 feet per second into a barrier 2.5 feet from the muzzle. the impact simulates a force of 3,400 gs, or 3,400 times the force of gravity.
2. Penetration resistance: The unit must withstand flying debris. A 1/4” pin at the end of a 500 lb. weight is dropped onto the recorder from a height of 10 ft.
3. Static crush: A hydraulic press puts 5,000 lbs. of pressure on the unit seven times for a total of five minutes.
4. Fire: The crash survival module must withstand a temperature of 2,000 degrees F for 30 minutes. The heat is so intense that the unprotected interface electronics melt away in the first five minutes. Propane torches are used to incinerate the unit because a jet fuel fire is too difficult to control for more than 10 minutes.
5. Fluid immersion: The same recorder that has been put through the previous tests is soaked for 48 hours in each of the different fluids found on a jetliner, including jet fuel, kerosene, hydraulic fluid and firefighting chemicals.
SOURCES: Loral Data Systems; Universal Avionics Systems Corp.; The American Society of Mechanical Engineers
Nope! No plane! Just a black/orange box. semi /S
“Seriously, 16,000-20,000 feet down, how would you get that out of an airplane?”
They don’t. They just lift the portions of the aircraft where the black boxes are located and remove them while on dry land.
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