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To: GAFreedom; P-Marlowe

Disagree. They have the history of the open range, and they have the fact that they were permitted to make personally paid for improvements with no reimbursement.

That pretty well settles it for me.

It is unowned land and it has been improved. They have a range claim.

The Fed is responsible for the land within our borders. They are not PROPERTY OWNERS.

If they were, shouldn’t they be paying property taxes to the states/counties, the same as other property owners within those states.


272 posted on 04/11/2014 5:28:40 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

——They are not PROPERTY OWNERS-—

Yes it is. The government bought and paid for the land in question with US$. The seller was Mexico.

The remaining land is essentially that which was not homesteaded with actual deeds to the homesteader. Additionally, large acreages were transferred to the railroads and promoted the westward advancement.

Much of Utah is owned by the government and was under BLM management. This land, against the consent of the State Of Utah was declared to be a park and removed from the possibility of development. The park is the Grand Stair case Escalante.

Then there is Wyoming.....


273 posted on 04/11/2014 5:36:39 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: xzins
Disagree. They have the history of the open range, and they have the fact that they were permitted to make personally paid for improvements with no reimbursement. That pretty well settles it for me.
That don't settle it in a court of law and that's what matters.
It is unowned land and it has been improved. They have a range claim.
Then they need a court judgment saying that.
The Fed is responsible for the land within our borders. They are not PROPERTY OWNERS.
Well, the law has disagreed on that for a couple of centuries now. If you want that viewpoint to be law, you need to have it recognized as law.
If they were, shouldn’t they be paying property taxes to the states/counties, the same as other property owners within those states.
Actually, no. Federal property is exempt from property taxes. So is state property and municipal property. It varies a little from state to state, but you can check your local real estate laws for that.
343 posted on 04/13/2014 9:56:44 AM PDT by GAFreedom (Freedom rings in GA!)
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