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Should America Fight World War Three in Order to Defend Estonia?

Posted on 04/08/2014 8:57:52 AM PDT by ComtedeMaistre

Estonia is a little nation of 1.3 million people, which was made a member of NATO in 2004. Estonia was once a province of the Soviet Union. It has a Russian minority that is 25 percent of the population, and Russia has vowed to protect ethnic Russians if they are subjected to mass violence by the Estonian majority.

Did NATO make a wise decision to bring in itty-bitty baltic nations that were once part of the Soviet Union? I can understand the importance of preventing the Soviet Union from being brought back into existence. But the lives of American troops are valuable, and should only be used to defend high value allies of the United States.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: estonia; europe; ibtz; nato; patbuchanan; patpukeanan; pitchforkpat; putin; russia; ukraine; viktoryanukovich; worldwariii; worldwarthree; wwiii; yuliatymoshenko
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To: ComtedeMaistre

It would probably be cheaper to issue the Estonian’s immigration visas.


61 posted on 04/08/2014 9:28:40 AM PDT by Rich21IE
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

I support Miley’s right to join the military, go to the front lines, and get shot in the ass while she’s twerking.


62 posted on 04/08/2014 9:28:58 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: CARTOUCHE
Had we a President who had our best interests in mind,...

There's the problem right there. Such a a president wouldn't need to threaten Russian cities, he would only need to threaten to fully defend our cities without fail, and promise to out produce Russia in every way.

We had such a president, ...once.

63 posted on 04/08/2014 9:29:35 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: LachlanMinnesota

Poland will. And they will kick Russki ass.


64 posted on 04/08/2014 9:29:50 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: ComtedeMaistre

Historically we do not join world wars until they’re at least two years old. So, no, we won’t go to war for Estonia, though we may eventually go to war for Germany (ironically enough).


65 posted on 04/08/2014 9:29:56 AM PDT by Oberon (John 12:5-6)
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To: ComtedeMaistre
I just skimmed the wikipedia entry for Estonia.

Not only should we honor our NATO obligation to them,
imho we should invite Estonia to be the 51st state.

Or perhaps kick out Illinois and make Estonia the 50th state.

66 posted on 04/08/2014 9:30:22 AM PDT by greedo
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To: ComtedeMaistre
Should America let its bloated communist cities get nuked as a result of destabilizing Christian Russia and her allies? That's how the Ruskies see it. They count the number of mercenaries and cash dollars employed against them whilst we watch Fox news deliver propaganda about fake Russian troop build ups in Ukraine.

Death by stupidity. That's us.

67 posted on 04/08/2014 9:32:28 AM PDT by x_plus_one (Islam Delenda Est)
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To: greedo

Now, there’s an idea !


68 posted on 04/08/2014 9:33:45 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: 1rudeboy

That “assistance” doesn’t count. They weren’t out fighting the enemy. That’s an army of fobbits and foreign Officers who got their Joint allied operation ticket puck for career advancement.
They weren’t humping hills with 10th Mountain. Out with the Marines taking over provinces till British joint commanders bitched.

Foreigners went to play.

Example...http://www.dallasnews.com/news/20101112-Marines-take-over-for-British-in-7343.ece


69 posted on 04/08/2014 9:33:54 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

That’s gradually come to echo my sentiments as well. With America itself sliding into such deviancy, represented by a poisonous culture, a government transforming into a banana republic of statist tyranny, open borders, a populace of government-dependent serfs and doped-up wastrels, and sheer degeneracy like fag-marriage being embraced...

Indeed, why ‘would’ I put my life on the line to preserve this America? The country has become virtually the opposite of everything it once stood for, and antagonistic to every value once cherished.


70 posted on 04/08/2014 9:35:11 AM PDT by greene66
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To: ComtedeMaistre

Better Red than Dead has been turned into better Vlad than Dead.


71 posted on 04/08/2014 9:35:19 AM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: Truth29

I remember an America that could walk AND chew gum at the same time.


72 posted on 04/08/2014 9:36:14 AM PDT by Gadsden1st
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To: ComtedeMaistre

We should either defend, or end NATO. Because the alliance is worthless unless every member is defended. It’s gotta be all or nothing. We need to make up our minds.


73 posted on 04/08/2014 9:36:36 AM PDT by DesScorp
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To: Navy Patriot

Granted.


74 posted on 04/08/2014 9:36:39 AM PDT by CARTOUCHE (I'm an Obamacare truant. Waiting on the truant officer to arrive.)
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To: x_plus_one
...whilst we watch Fox news deliver propaganda about fake Russian troop build ups in Ukraine.

Those aren't troops. Those merely are Russian tourists with weapons. On their way to the beach.

75 posted on 04/08/2014 9:39:08 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Chainmail
Yup. If we abandon little Estonia just because Russia threatens us, then no problem abandoning bigger allies.

Agreed.

Just a reminder to those who may not recall, Estonia, small as it may be, stood side by side with the US in both Afghanistan and Iraq.

76 posted on 04/08/2014 9:39:16 AM PDT by varon (Para bellum)
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To: dfwgator

Let us hope the brave Poles will have more than horse cavalry this time. That sort of character should not go unsupplied.


77 posted on 04/08/2014 9:39:39 AM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: CARTOUCHE

What about defending Japan?


78 posted on 04/08/2014 9:39:53 AM PDT by Taylor42 (Hillary - Not now NOT EVER!)
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To: DesertRhino

I guess their deaths didn’t matter, either.


79 posted on 04/08/2014 9:40:01 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: ComtedeMaistre

Do you believe that a couple of dozen nukes falling in American cities is a price worth paying, in order to defend teeny-weeny Estonia? Or should NATO limit itself to defending high value NATO nations?

The answer to your offensive rhetoric is YES!

Why should size matter? Is Finland large enough? Sweden? Poland? Are you OK if we cede New Mexico to Mexico, but not California? OK if Russia invades “tiny” Alaska?

These people were enslaved by the Russians, and their ethnic Russians were installed there, given stolen property that has never been restored to the true owners. They Russians also happen to be the main source of crime, social problems, and socialist voting.

The President should announce that he’s sending 500,000 rifles, and 500,000,000 rounds of ammo, and offer any help to train the populace to provide an armed militia. Estonia is asking for US troops. Move a bunch there from Germany.


80 posted on 04/08/2014 9:41:24 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Lose to Cruz - 2016!)
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