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Fort Hood shooter snapped over denial of request for leave, Army confirms
FoxNews.com ^ | 4-7-2014 | FoxNews.com

Posted on 04/07/2014 1:53:44 PM PDT by servo1969

Edited on 04/07/2014 1:54:53 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

The spree began in one building of the sprawling complex, where Lopez, who was 34, first pulled his .45-caliber Caliber Smith & Wesson handgun and killed one, injuring 10.

"The deceased and one of wounded had been involved in the verbal altercation with subject," Grey said.


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: army; bang; banglist; forthood; forthoodshooting; fthood; hood; movealong; nothingtoseehere; usarmy
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What the h-ll was carrying all that ammo for if not a planned attack?
1 posted on 04/07/2014 1:53:44 PM PDT by servo1969
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To: servo1969

The headline says they know why, the story says otherwise


2 posted on 04/07/2014 1:55:24 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: GeronL

After the first couple of bangs, a truely free citizen would have been returning fire, but being denied self-protection, yet another gun-free zone is a shooting gallery for madmen.


3 posted on 04/07/2014 1:57:56 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: servo1969

Exactly.


4 posted on 04/07/2014 2:00:03 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: GeronL

You are right. There really is nothing in the story that supports the headline.


5 posted on 04/07/2014 2:00:07 PM PDT by NEMDF
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To: servo1969; jazusamo; P-Marlowe; bigheadfred; Girlene; smoothsailing; 4woodenboats

This jerk killed his NCO chain of command because they wouldn’t approve a leave.

There’s a reason the guy was only a specialist (E-4). He had 11 years in the National Guard and 5 years active duty and he was only a specialist.

We’re NOT being told something.

Just about the only way to accomplish that is by being a colossal screw-up!


6 posted on 04/07/2014 2:02:06 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: servo1969

Too bad his concern was not about Gov’t spending in excess of revenue.


7 posted on 04/07/2014 2:03:50 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: xzins
He had 11 years in the PR National Guard and 5 years active duty
8 posted on 04/07/2014 2:04:54 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: xzins

I was a UAV DET CO, and I had a SPC that I needed to promote in the 33W slot. He damn near cried and did NOT want to be promoted. He had been a E-4 for ten years and loved it there. Shrug. Glad I was 19-series until OCS.


9 posted on 04/07/2014 2:05:08 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: Admin Moderator; GeronL; NEMDF
This story on Fox says: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/04/07/fort-hood-shooter-snapped-over-denial-request-for-leave-army-confirms/

Fort Hood shooter Ivan Lopez's rampage followed an argument over the denial of his request for leave and did not appear to be due to some ongoing mental problem, an Army official said Monday.

The word came as officials announced findings of their ongoing investigation, which included interviews with more than 1,100 people and a recreation of the shooting last Wednesday, which left four dead including Lopez, and 16 injured.

“We only have one suspect,” said Chris Grey, spokesman for the Army’s Criminal Investigation Command. “We have found no evidence that this man belonged to a terrorist organization.”

Grey, who was flanked by other law enforcement officials, did not take questions at the brief Monday news conference, and said he would not divulge any information that could jeopardize the investigation.

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Killed were Army Sgt. Timothy Owens, Staff Sgt. Carlos Lazaney Rodriguez, 38, of Aguadilla, Puerto Rico and Sgt. 1st Class Daniel Ferguson, 39, of Florida.


10 posted on 04/07/2014 2:06:17 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: servo1969

No mention of his politics. Usually they would have this guy pegged as a pro-second amend, tea party type.

Even when its a lefty like the IRS plane crash guy or Arizona shooter, they try to make him seem tea party-ish

Curious.


11 posted on 04/07/2014 2:06:35 PM PDT by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: DCBryan1

Says to me that your troop had problems.


12 posted on 04/07/2014 2:10:08 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

Or dumb as a bag of hair. I saw a guy on AFV trying to put on his Navy jumper and the guy had 6 service stripes representing 24 years of service (not gold either which would represent 12 years of good conduct) and he only made it to E-5.


13 posted on 04/07/2014 2:11:31 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Dumb as a box of rocks (or hair) fits my definition of colossal screw up. :>)


14 posted on 04/07/2014 2:14:35 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: servo1969
for some reason nobody anywhere, in the lame-stream, wants to answer this question ...
Did Ivan Lopez volunteer for a peace keeping mission to Egypt in mid 2000s while in Puerto Rican National Guard. That answer has to be contained in his records in Puerto Rico.
15 posted on 04/07/2014 2:15:16 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: xzins
Hmmm. Makes me wonder if he had higher rank but was busted in an Article 15 or in a Court?

On the other hand, promotion can be slow in the Guard if the unit doesn't have a slot to promote into.

They sure aren't revealing much here.

16 posted on 04/07/2014 2:17:26 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: DCBryan1

Could it be that this guy really liked him job/his MOS and didn’t want to switch to another job? Perhaps he didn’t want to become a buck sergeant which probably meant going to the A and B NOC schools. Perhaps he knew he was not cut out for or did not want to be a leader and had satisfied himself with his pay level. What kind of GT score did he have -if it is still called GT? Otherwise, was he a “good” soldier?

What is a 19-series?

Thanks.


17 posted on 04/07/2014 2:18:23 PM PDT by miele man
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To: servo1969

He brought it because he assumed he was going to be denied. He wanted them to give him the excuse he was looking for. He got it.


18 posted on 04/07/2014 2:22:30 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: xzins

I agree, they’re not saying anything about former problems and I’ve a hunch they’re there on his record.

If true he flipped over being denied leave there’s more than a few problems.


19 posted on 04/07/2014 2:23:54 PM PDT by jazusamo ([Obama] A Truly Great Phony -- Thomas Sowell http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3058949/posts)
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To: jazusamo
more than a few problems

Best guess is a lone wolf closet moslem from here.

20 posted on 04/07/2014 2:27:55 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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