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To: kristinn

I see nothing wrong with his statements. He makes sense, a lot of sense.

But you ignore that he is against any type of immigration reform while democrats control the Senate.

Cruz is saying when conservatives like him are in power, immigration reform is a must because it is indeed broken. It rewards the wrong kind of people and it must be changed so that it is not a national security concern.

Cruz is willing to consider legal status for illegals but only when conservatives are in power. I am fine with that. They will be documented as migrant workers and made to pay taxes and they won’t receive a special path to citizenship. Again this will happen when conservatives are in control and the economy supports it.

You go back and look at my posts and posts of other conservatives on this forum and you will see that migrant labor is favored when conservatives control the ground game with border security, with a stronger economy, when illegals are given migrant worker visas that do not effect American jobs.

My grandfather when he was alive ran a business in Tuscon. He hired plenty of migrant workers and paid them in cash. It wasn’t illegal when he did this. This was the 1960s and 1970s. He respected their work ethic and they benefited. The cash they earned allowed them to live 6 months out of the year in their homes on the Yucatan and they lived like kings with the cash they earned.

My father also employed many educated Americans in marketing, advertising, accounting, jobs that migrant workers couldn’t do. Migrant labor was mostly confined to warehouse activities, moving heavy objects, packaging. This situation benefited everyone. The migrants had no incentive, no compulsion to live as citizens in the USA. They had it too good where they came from.

That’s not the case any longer. Now they are a voter group target for the democrats and they are extended many protections and free things from the federal government via state agencies.

We are going to fix immigration big time, just not right now. This is what Cruz is saying, fix it but just not right now.

Cruz is with us. He’s smart and in tune with Tea party conservatism and that means you and me.


100 posted on 04/05/2014 7:55:55 AM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Hostage

immigration reform is a must because it is indeed broken
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What does that mean ???

what is broken ???

how or why would anyone think they needed to “reform” a strong American law ???


109 posted on 04/05/2014 8:10:02 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Hostage

“Cruz is willing to consider legal status for illegals but only when conservatives are in power.”

You seem to COMPLETELY write-off the demographic effect of this. Like it or not, this country is about 50/50 Dem/Republican. Throw in 30,000,000 people from the Third world, WHO WILL HAVE KIDS, and the country becomes 60/40 Democrat, with NO HOPE of having any meaningful opposition.

That means the following:
1) The Supreme Court becomes a RUBBER STAMP for the Democrats. The Second Amendment is history. And that means people like me, in Texas, will have to turn in our guns.

2) The country basically becomes a BASKET CASE, just like Venezuela is now - that country has the LARGEST OIL RESERVES in the world and they are about to start food rationing.

3) The ability to speak freely in opposition to the government simply ENDS, just as is the case in much of Europe, particularly Scandinavia. Like the Second Amendment, the First Amendment means whatever the Democrats want it to mean, since they control the Courts and the government.

4) Then things get really bad, as in energy and food shortages, Mexican-style gangs kidnapping and torturing unarmed Americans, and then currency collapse. Not to mention not having a military anymore.

5) Then maybe after all that, some of the immigrants get fed up with the Democrats, and try to oppose them. Maybe they can provide a credible opposition - but it doesn’t really matter much, we will be THIRD WORLD, at best. And the voting systems will likely be even more rigged than they are now.

All of the above will be completed in about 2 generations - we’ll be ok, but our kids will suffer when they’re old, and our grandkids will suffer through it for much of their lives.

That seems to be the future that TED CRUZ WANTS for this country, if I’m understanding his words correctly (and, actually, this is the first time I’ve heard those words). Talking about DEMOGRAPHICS is not pretty, but it is the ONLY THING that is separating us from becoming like Latin America. If we choose to go that path...there will be NO OTHER OUTCOME. Argentina was a FIRST WORLD country early in the 20th century, before their demographics overwhelmed them...and they continue to sink even further.

Also keep in mind that the Democrats still have to actually win elections now, as the country is still 50/50 - they CANNOT do anything close to what they want to do - not even close. Read THEIR MATERIALS, read their dreams and goals for this country, when they don’t think you’re looking, go to their “teach-ins” - then you will understand what they have in store for us. Once the Dems don’t have to worry about elections, dealing with the Courts, having a Republican House - they WILL take that path, as people of that mindset have done in EVERY COUNTRY when they achieve undisputed power. They have no choice but to oppress, and oppress FIERCELY, as people would otherwise not tolerate the deplorable conditions that this country will become.

So, I’m against Ted Cruz’s plan - but I LOVE him otherwise.


114 posted on 04/05/2014 8:19:36 AM PDT by BobL
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To: Hostage

Beware anyone offering Illegals legal status in lieu of citizenship. The whole premise is a straw man erected by the pro-illegal camp. Fact is citizenship is an almost nonexistent desire for Illegals. Legal status is what they universally holler for because they know full well every single government goody will follow that status.


167 posted on 04/05/2014 9:45:01 AM PDT by moehoward
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