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Ukraine Puts Mothballed Mig-29 Fighter Jets Back in Service
Ria Novosti, Russia ^ | 04/04/2014

Posted on 04/04/2014 8:06:36 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

KIEV, April 4 (RIA Novosti) – Several mothballed Mikoyan Mig-29 Fulcrum fourth-generation fighter jets were returned to combat service in western Ukraine, the country’s Defense Ministry said on Friday.

“Specialists of our team have already returned several planes to service,” the ministry quoted an unnamed commander of an Air Force unit near Ivano-Frankivsk as saying. “We are now conducting test flights. Soon, more mothballed fighter jets will take off again.”

The state of Ukraine’s armed forces came under close scrutiny when the new government took office in late February, after months of violent uprising.

Kiev launched extensive combat readiness checks of its armed forces in early March, following Crimea’s announcement that it was ready to secede from Ukraine and join Russia.

Defense Minister Ihor Tenyukh said in his report to the president that the checks revealed “unsatisfactory” condition of the armed forces.

He said that out of 507 combat planes and 121 attack helicopters, only 15 percent are serviceable. Air Force crews lack proper training and only 10 percent of them are capable of performing combat tasks.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: mig; russia; ukraine
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1 posted on 04/04/2014 8:06:36 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Because nothing says 'power projection' like a hangar queen.

/johnny

2 posted on 04/04/2014 8:11:07 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Ukraine is in no condition to fight a war with Russia. Two decades of neglect of its armed forces have taken their toll.


3 posted on 04/04/2014 8:13:56 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Ukraine’s reservists supposedly only have two weeks training. I’m sure that gives the citizens a lot of confidence. Unfortunately, Zero wants to rake our military down to the same level.


4 posted on 04/04/2014 8:14:43 PM PDT by 12Gauge687
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To: goldstategop

"You not say Ukraine weak."

5 posted on 04/04/2014 8:22:26 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: JRandomFreeper
LOL... glad my mouth was empty, damn
6 posted on 04/04/2014 8:23:34 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

How many older mothballed fighters could the US return to service?


7 posted on 04/04/2014 8:27:26 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: GeronL

I bet we have a lot mothballed. I remember a year or two back, Eglin’s 33rd TFW flew their F-15s to the boneyard.


8 posted on 04/04/2014 8:36:36 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: yarddog

Bump


9 posted on 04/04/2014 8:38:44 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Where did they get the spare parts?

Hmmmm.


10 posted on 04/04/2014 8:46:21 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: goldstategop
Ukraine is in no condition to fight a war with Russia.

What was it Rumsfield said? "You go to war with the army you have---not the army you might want or wish to have at a later time."

They're improving their "condition".
11 posted on 04/04/2014 8:48:26 PM PDT by Girlene (Hey, NSA!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Well the aircraft are certainly satisfactory, and Ukrainian pilots can fly them well enough, but can they do it right now.

They are gonna need considerable practice and training exercises to get up to the game the Russians can mount tomorrow.

12 posted on 04/04/2014 8:52:50 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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Polish RAF pilots had lower quality planes than their British counterparts during the Battle of Britain, but had a higher kill ratio. It’s the pilot, not the plane.


13 posted on 04/04/2014 8:58:10 PM PDT by dfwgator
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It’s the pilot, not the plane.

It’s the pilot, the training and the experience, not the plane.

14 posted on 04/04/2014 9:06:13 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: dfwgator
Polish RAF pilots had lower quality planes than their British counterparts during the Battle of Britain, but had a higher kill ratio. It’s the pilot, not the plane.

True. I often said that if I could magically beam over 1 million M1 Garands and Carbines, 50,000 bazookas and 5000 M48/M60/Centurion tanks to the Ukraine to fight the Russian, I'd do it. I subscribe to the rule of "there is no such thing as an obsolete weapon, only obsolete thinking," it takes the people behind them to use them and find ways to turn things to their advantage plus it takes the desire and rage as well.
15 posted on 04/04/2014 9:09:15 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Mom I miss you! (8-20-1938 to 11-18-2013) Cancer sucks)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Do your best Ukraine!

/we should be supporting these brave souls. They are fighting for their country and many here are making fun of them? For shame FR..for shame.


16 posted on 04/04/2014 9:13:20 PM PDT by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: goldstategop

It isn’t just that. The design philosophy of the Russian equipment is very different than ours. We design ours to be serviceable, maintainable, and repairable for rather long lifetime in times of war AND peace,often at the cost of initial cost and performance. Russian equipment is designed to be running much closer to the edge, and generally needs more upkeep and parts. Running lightly-built, highly stressed planes and engines near the edge was one of the reasons that the Russian planes looked pretty darned good on paper vs ours for years (and still do).

Oddly enough, there is a perverse unintended consequence of this. If you buy aircraft from the Russians, you had better have a price-controlled contract and be on good political terms with them as long as you plan on using then, because otherwise your fancy plane will be doing gate duty at the local public park in no time. On the other hand, US equipment is much easier to get (or even make)parts for, and has great training and documentation. Ask the Iraqi’s about their MIG’s at the dawn of the gulf wars. Then, ask the Iranians how their Shah-era planes are holding up these days. Amazingly well, I have read.


17 posted on 04/04/2014 9:19:12 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: dfwgator

Yes, I remember an account from “Thunderbolt” by US ace Robert S. Johnson: The Polish pilots were considered slightly crazy, but could make those P-47’s do things the designers said they could not do.


18 posted on 04/04/2014 9:25:23 PM PDT by Paul R. (Leftists desire to control everything; In the end they invariably control nothing worth a damn.)
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To: WildHighlander57

Ukraine has a pretty high tech arms and space industry. They ought to be able to make ‘em themselves.


19 posted on 04/04/2014 9:26:46 PM PDT by Paul R. (Leftists desire to control everything; In the end they invariably control nothing worth a damn.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Pretty picture!


20 posted on 04/04/2014 9:27:19 PM PDT by Paul R. (Leftists desire to control everything; In the end they invariably control nothing worth a damn.)
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