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To: sukhoi-30mki

Ukraine is in no condition to fight a war with Russia. Two decades of neglect of its armed forces have taken their toll.


3 posted on 04/04/2014 8:13:56 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

"You not say Ukraine weak."

5 posted on 04/04/2014 8:22:26 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: goldstategop
Ukraine is in no condition to fight a war with Russia.

What was it Rumsfield said? "You go to war with the army you have---not the army you might want or wish to have at a later time."

They're improving their "condition".
11 posted on 04/04/2014 8:48:26 PM PDT by Girlene (Hey, NSA!)
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It isn’t just that. The design philosophy of the Russian equipment is very different than ours. We design ours to be serviceable, maintainable, and repairable for rather long lifetime in times of war AND peace,often at the cost of initial cost and performance. Russian equipment is designed to be running much closer to the edge, and generally needs more upkeep and parts. Running lightly-built, highly stressed planes and engines near the edge was one of the reasons that the Russian planes looked pretty darned good on paper vs ours for years (and still do).

Oddly enough, there is a perverse unintended consequence of this. If you buy aircraft from the Russians, you had better have a price-controlled contract and be on good political terms with them as long as you plan on using then, because otherwise your fancy plane will be doing gate duty at the local public park in no time. On the other hand, US equipment is much easier to get (or even make)parts for, and has great training and documentation. Ask the Iraqi’s about their MIG’s at the dawn of the gulf wars. Then, ask the Iranians how their Shah-era planes are holding up these days. Amazingly well, I have read.


17 posted on 04/04/2014 9:19:12 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: goldstategop

Wouldn’t take a whole lot to beat the Russian military. Just leave a BUNCH of vodka behind as you retreated and then come back after they’ve passed out.


36 posted on 04/05/2014 4:31:41 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: goldstategop

Ukraine is in no condition to fight a war with Russia.


They aren’t in any condition to fight a war with Monaco.


49 posted on 04/06/2014 9:53:06 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: goldstategop

Yes but they have enough partisans to make an occupation largely untenable. Russian soldiers returning in coffins arent greeted anymore favorably.


52 posted on 04/06/2014 1:45:50 PM PDT by RedForemanRules
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To: goldstategop; All

Has there also been neglect of Russian armed forces?


63 posted on 04/08/2014 1:24:22 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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