[Carry_Okie]

One more time.

OK, how about four more times... I've talked about this here, here, here, and here. There are probably more.

Yes, we have had much of this discussion about the Constitution's flaws before, and you agreed that what I regarded as deficiencies are legitimate criticisms of the Constitution as ratified. We disagreed about the degree to which Henry or Jefferson (had he been present) could have changed that. I suspect foul play was one of the reasons he was not there. Are you changing your mind about those problems?

Levin's "Liberty Amendments" do not address those deficiencies. I expect him to fix it or I will continue to criticize his plan publicly. Yes, I have flagged him on those threads and FR mailed him on the topic, but I have not heard any change. I guess he's just too important to bother with peons like FReepers.

[Jacquerie]

Take it easy. The “one more time” was a jab at myself for an earlier mis-post.

I regard Levin's proposed amendments as effective, structural changes. They will make the government far more federal than the plan of 1787. What amendments do you propose instead?

[Repeal The 17th]

At the risk of being rude, I would like to jump in
regarding the links to previous posts and comments...

-1st link-
"we need to have state senators appointed by counties"

I am a firm believer in "state's rights" and while this might be a good idea for a state to do, and while a state should certainly be "free" to do it that way, I shy away from the federal government dictating how the states should run their state governments.

-2nd and 3rd and 4th links-
"the manner of treaty ratification"
"fixing the treaty power"
"international law to which we have been illegally subjected"
"flaw in Article II Section 2 on treaty ratification"

Yup, I agree, that needs to be addressed.

"the language of the Supremacy clause (fails to assure that treaties which usurp Constitutional limitation are rendered void)"
"amending the Supremacy Clause so that it is clear that a treaty that exceeds constitutionally enumerated powers truly IS unconstitutional"
"ambiguity in the Supremacy Clause"

Yup, that also needs to be addressed.

"assure that usurpation of power carries criminal penalties for officers of the government"

Good one, I have that on my list as well.


"amending Article II, Section 2, Clause 2 to render the threshold of Senate ratification equivalent to a Constitutional amendment; i.e., 3/4 of State legislatures"

I like it!
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Mark's book threw out some ideas to help get the ball rolling.
He never intended for his ideas to be copy/paste to a convention of states, and he has often stated that.

So many problems, so little time!