Posted on 03/31/2014 8:58:31 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
“They do not stop to consider that if men were immortal, they themselves would never have come into being.”
Galileo in Dialogues Concerning the Two Great World Systems
“Its called Receiving Jesus. The only way youre going to make it out of here alive.”
Ahh, so you believe that the only way God will ever work is by reaching down out of heaven and picking you up? You believe that the creator of the universe, and every physical law in it, would rely entirely on supernatural rather than natural means to achieve his will? You believe it’s impossible that the creator may have fashioned this world in such a way that, if his creations followed the right path, they would help achieve his will?
Consider this - might it be possible that human beings living right, behaving morally and righteously, striving every day to more deeply understand creation, might be taking steps to bring about the kingdom of God mentioned in the bible? You know, the one without disease, or want, or aging and death? Do you think the big guy needs to come down here personally and lay every brick for the divine city, or do you think that maybe he created a world where, if we were worthy of it, we’d help build it into something really great in the end?
Heck, he may be a carpenter, but he still contracted out for the construction of the ark. Sometimes we wait for a hand from heaven, forgetting that someone gave us a pair of our own and that we can use them to help bring us to the right place.
Not trying to be confrontational, and not trying to challenge any of your beliefs or be flippant, just throwing some thoughts out for consideration.
bttt
“Ive got a better way. Take 3-D ultra-sounds of all organs.
3-D print them and replace before they wear out. Simple.”
Where can I sign Congress up for brain replacements?
How familiar are you, do you think, with Biblical Theology?
Who the hell would even want to live forever?
Does the word boredom enter into their thinking?
God gave every man and woman (every living creature on earth) a piece of time to make the most and the best of.
Most people I have ever heard of; or known, needed to die and get out of the way, including me.
My eternal life will (or not) be granted through the grace of the Lord Jesus and God Almighty, no mere human can even think to give me that.
Technically you may be correct. God has given us the brains and the will to conquer or create almost anything, time permitting. However, the book of our history has been written already...and it looks like we fail miserably (I cheated and read ahead). I guess we do get to live in a perfect world, but it won’t be one of our doing. Hey, we’re people, we mess up. That’s what we do.
Nobody has lived forever yet.
Bloodstream robot-induced psychosis.
We can choose what we do now in these temporary bodies and whether we choose Jesus determines where our spirits go after our body dies. But after our bodies die we have no control over what happens to our spirit.
If "living right" could save us, then Jesus wouldn't have had to die. Jesus is the only one to have lived without sin. He's the only person who ever lived who did not deserve to die, but he died for us so that we, who deserve to die don't have to.
I have considered your argument on more than one occasion, the key component of what you are looking for is “worthy of it”. You be sure to let me know when that happens; or it looks to be even close, won’t you?
No I don’t expect God to come down here and pluck me up to eternal bliss or happiness, that is something I will have to work long and hard for with my own hands and deeds.
You are right; God does sub-contract out some of His jobs here on earth, but I think for the eternity part of the project you are going to have to go back to the “PRIME CONTRACTOR”.
This is a fallen world. Eternal life is not possible in this realm.
If I discovered the secret to living forever, I would keep it a secret from the world except a tiny close-knit group
I enjoy my life, but I have zero interest in living forever. To do what exactly? . I procrastinate enough already. The natural order of life and purposeful living as we now know it will be destroyed by the tinkerings of scientists.
Laws could be passed mandating no one live past 150,-After that, the machines (maybe even passed from mother to child) inside you from birth will be programmed to kill you.
A terrorist or foreign government hijacks a satellite and programs nano machines to kill everyone in a country.
someone creates a program that allows you to use your wifi signal to turn off your neighbor's nano machines, or get them to tear up his insides...
Catching a 'virus' from the computer may make your brain shut down, or cause you to kill your family, or blow up a bridge...
“To do what exactly?”
Living ‘forever’ might be the only way to get back all that the govt stole from me and many others in FICA taxes.
Did you forget somebody?
I have been married for 13 years. It isn’t forever, but sometimes it feels like it!
If I discovered the secret to living forever, I would keep it a secret from the world except a tiny close-knit group.
One of whom is a great investor!
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