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Russian troops said to be hiding positions, creating supply lines near Ukraine border
FOX News ^ | March 28, 2014 | By Jonathan Wachtel, Justin Fishel, James Rosen, Chad Pergram, Nick Kalman and The AP

Posted on 03/28/2014 2:05:36 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

The United Nations Security Council will meet Friday to discuss the ongoing crisis in Ukraine as concerns mount over new details about Russia's military buildup on the Ukrainian border, including Moscow's reported efforts to camouflage troops and equipment.

The council is expected to meet privately Friday afternoon, a day after the U.N. General Assembly approved a resolution affirming Ukraine's territorial integrity and deeming the referendum that led to Russia's annexation of the Crimean Peninsula illegal.

The vote came as the Pentagon said there are no indications that Russian forces along the border with Ukraine are carrying out the kind of legitimate military exercises that Moscow has cited as the reason for their controversial deployment in the region, Reuters reported.

"We've seen no specific indications that these -- that exercises -- are taking place," Pentagon spokesman Rear Adm. John Kirby told reporters.

The Wall Street Journal reported late Friday that Russian troops are concealing their positions and establishing supply lines, stoking fears among U.S. intelligence agencies that have struggled to assess Russian President Vladimir Putin's plans.

Senior U.S. military officials told the newspaper that Russia's efforts to camouflage its forces and equipment could be designed to obscure images taken by American spy satellites or to conceal the location and size of their force from the Ukrainian military.

Another senior military official told The Journal that the Pentagon is concerned that the Russians have moved into place additional supplies, such as food and spare parts, which could support both a routine exercise or a prolonged military incursion into Ukraine.

"They are positioning logistics...

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: crimea; obama; putin; russia; russianaggression; russianoccupation; ukraine; worldwarthree
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To: Jim Robinson

What I find interesting is the timing of it all. Putin did this right after Obama proposes to gut our military.


21 posted on 03/28/2014 3:25:16 PM PDT by aimhigh (John 14:21)
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To: Mariner; All
This smells of a far bigger land grab than anyone in the West was smart enough to grasp.

Russia is likely to drive SW frem the Ukrainian border along the entire Black Sea Coast, through Odessa and into Transwhatever adjacent to Moldova.

Putin's call to Obama today was most likely his opportunity to further humiliate/taunt Obama and the nation, and to notify him Russia will stop there.

22 posted on 03/28/2014 3:27:32 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner
The Russians are pretty damn good at that sneak attack thing.

Yeah, they were rather badly victimized by it in 1941, to the tune of about 26 million people. Having thought it over, they decided that it was far better to give than to receive...and, yes, they're very good at it (promising to shoot any leakers in the back of the head tends to keep things quiet).

23 posted on 03/28/2014 3:44:15 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Mariner

The line in 1939 was Poland. Is there a line in 2014? Not with this President or the Europeans who have failed to invest in their own defense for 70 years. Therefore, if you are Putin why not take what you can get when the opportunity is there?


24 posted on 03/28/2014 3:46:21 PM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Please, God, give our congress the wisdom and strength to impeach this traitor.

And convict, amen.

5.56mm

25 posted on 03/28/2014 3:52:25 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Dead Dog
Never trust an election where the victor gets more that 70%. Crimea and Chechnya both “voted” pro Russia by >90%.

There were only two questions on the ballot: (1) “Do you want to be part of Russia?” and (2) “Do you want to be independent?” The ballot did not offer the option of remaining a part of Ukraine.

Source


26 posted on 03/28/2014 3:52:44 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: minnesota_bound

Zhukov ordered the executions of several inadequate officers, thus strengthening the siege perimeter. To bolster resistance, Zhukov organized a special armed regiment that was empowered to shoot anyone who retreated from the perimeter.


He was a management consultant before the war.....


27 posted on 03/28/2014 3:55:56 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: minnesota_bound
"He was a management consultant before the war....."

And he appears to be an effective officer.

28 posted on 03/28/2014 3:59:26 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner
yEP, THAT COIN WOULD BE SHORTLY VAPORIZED.

Certainly finding the flattened coin afterwards would be just like searching for a commercial jetliner in the middle of the Indian Ocean.

29 posted on 03/28/2014 4:00:07 PM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: Ancesthntr
Yeah, they were rather badly victimized by it in 1941, to the tune of about 26 million people. You mean when the Nazi and Russian team of invasion and conquest broke up, they turned against what had been their recent strategy of sneak attack?
30 posted on 03/28/2014 4:21:36 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: RWGinger

A coin placed on a rail in front of a giant locomotive’s driving wheel will prevent it moving forward.

In the News/Activism forum, on a thread titled Russian troops said to be hiding positions, creating supply lines near Ukraine border, RWGinger wrote:
I am hoping that is sarc?

No that’s a fact.


31 posted on 03/28/2014 4:55:28 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: zeestephen

The goal is Odessa. What do the Oligarchs in that city want - EU austerity measures or Russian cash with the attendant strings. Troops and security apparatus are no longer needed. Those functions have been privatized.


32 posted on 03/28/2014 5:00:52 PM PDT by frithguild (The warmth and goodness of Gaia is a nuclear reactor in the Earth's core that burns Thorium)
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To: Jim Robinson
Senior U.S. military officials told the newspaper that Russia's efforts to camouflage its forces and equipment could be designed to obscure images taken by American spy satellites or to conceal the location and size of their force from the Ukrainian military.

After 20+ years in the Army and Army Reserve, I can tell you that any military force moving into an area will put up camoflage nets and similar stuff. That is SOP and doesn't necessarily mean anything sinister. The fact that they are there and moving supplies into the area probably does mean something bad....

But not to worry, our President will write a strongly worded note of protest, if Russia does invade (or he will have an aide write it, while he goes and plays golf).

33 posted on 03/28/2014 5:07:52 PM PDT by BruceS
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To: mosesdapoet

One man can manually move a ten car subway train with a breaker bar.


34 posted on 03/28/2014 5:20:12 PM PDT by USAF80
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To: Jim Robinson

The question is simple, does the West still have the will to exist? How about the will to stand up for Western Civilization? If we do not, we do not deserve freedom, and we do not deserve to live. History is full of Putins, it was only a matter of time before some tyrant got powerful enough to directly challenge the Free World. The question is, to be cower and hide or face the enemy.


35 posted on 03/28/2014 6:24:11 PM PDT by BurningOak (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2830849/reply?c=1)
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To: aimhigh

I don’t think events in US influenced Putin too much. The catalyst for all this was the Ukrainian revolution. Although having a weak President in US is probably a nice bonus for him.


36 posted on 03/28/2014 6:29:06 PM PDT by BurningOak (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2830849/reply?c=1)
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To: USAF80

In the News/Activism forum, on a thread titled Russian troops said to be hiding positions, creating supply lines near Ukraine border, USAF80 wrote: About my comment about the coin placed on a rail
One man can manually move a ten car subway train with a breaker bar.

Yes he can partcularly with those lightweight steel bearing subway cars or even with a 10 foot 4X4. The trick with the coin is where it’s placed. From a cold start a steam loco because the steel driving wheels allow no give over the smallest obstruction on the rail engineers would put their engine in reverse for a few inches then inch forward to gain inertia and crawl over any obstruction on the track.

The point about my comment is all is not lost if find a spot where you put the coin


37 posted on 03/28/2014 8:16:21 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Full moon? It is usually considered the best time.


38 posted on 03/28/2014 8:33:31 PM PDT by PastorBooks
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To: BurningOak

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics

Ukraine is just another box to check in the long march to establish a Russian master race.

I think the plan is like an underwear gnomes business plan, but it seems to be working for them.


39 posted on 03/28/2014 8:48:01 PM PDT by Dead Dog
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To: mosesdapoet

But will a coin stop a tank?


40 posted on 03/28/2014 9:00:01 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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