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To: Pox

Bologna! They want the toys and the vacations and they don’t care to be bothered with the trouble of having kids.

Kids are work. Most people don’t care for the work, they care for the fun. Vacations, new cars and big houses are fun.

I am not imposing my beliefs. I am simply pointing out the facts that are obvious to anyone that can see. If anyone is rationalizing it is you.

Besides, you don’t know anything about me. Most people have no idea of what real economic reality is. I have more than my share of knowledge about the economic realities of life and a new car and a big house are luxury items. Children should be looked at as a blessing and a reward, not an economic problem.


29 posted on 03/24/2014 10:24:56 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Jim from C-Town

Well said, and God Bless! My parents both came from families of 9 and 10 respectively. Yes, it was harder vs. having no kids at all, but PEOPLE are a blessing.


31 posted on 03/24/2014 10:35:24 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: Jim from C-Town

“They want the toys and the vacations and they don’t care to be bothered with the trouble of having kids. Kids are work. Most people don’t care for the work, they care for the fun. Vacations, new cars and big houses are fun.”

That may be the case for some, but I see an increasing number of childless young people having a hard time making ends meet in this horrible economy (due to job losses, wage cuts, McJobs, etc.). With so much economic insecurity, it is harder to expect people to “take the plunge” (and it is a plunge); they want to retain their freedom to follow jobs, move to better environments, etc.. My wife and I had children (the last ten years ago), and I’d hope I could resist the temptations today to avoid doing it; I thought things were tough then (and they were), but this is brutal.

In the end, I just saw no point in being here (or getting married) if we weren’t going to breed. Maybe it’s an Irish thing, and I don’t expect others to feel the same way (as long as they understand and accept the widespread ramifications of their choice), but when all else is a mess I never lack a sense of purpose since the little monsters started coming...


43 posted on 03/25/2014 4:03:04 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Jim from C-Town; OldPossum
@Jim from C-Town:
Bologna! They want the toys and the vacations and they don’t care to be bothered with the trouble of having kids. Kids are work. Most people don’t care for the work, they care for the fun. Vacations, new cars and big houses are fun.
No, that ain't it at all for me. It has nothing to do with fun. I can have all the fun I want on the cheap. Fun is mostly free for me. But I can't make rent and save for my retirement and have kids at the same time. And I'm sorry, I won't work until I drop at 90. Please don't give me the guff about how the kids'll take care of me. It rarely, if ever, works out that way - and even if the kids do, it usually leads to fighting and resentment. My parents refuse to even let me or my sibs cut the grass for them. They think it's insulting if we offer.

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@OldPossum:
Ahh, but ClearCaseGuy seems to be saying that you must have them! You must!
If he really wants that, he pay for the reversal of my snip. ;)
49 posted on 03/25/2014 6:37:10 AM PDT by GAFreedom (Freedom rings in GA!)
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To: Jim from C-Town
...a new car and a big house are luxury items. Children should be looked at as a blessing and a reward, not an economic problem.

Hear! Hear! From your fingertips to God's eyes!

There was a term for kids who had everything material they wanted: Spoiled Rotten!

Some 'privations' build character and strength. I may not have had all the stuff some other kids did, but the experiences, the love, the shared times with family and friends remain priceless. In that I was far richer than I imagined as a child, and life had a fullness no mere stuff can provide.

I still see people who are preoccupied with stuff--the new car, the latest gizmo, a bigger house--but their children are often lonely and rudderless.

55 posted on 03/25/2014 12:40:43 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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