The Catholic Roots of Obama’s Activism (Marxist roots, plus first name of 1988 girlfriend?)

New York Times ^ | March 22, 2014 | JASON HOROWITZ

[Seizethecarp]

This Thursday, Mr. Obama will meet with Pope Francis at the Vatican after a three-decade divergence with the church. By the late 1980s, the Catholic hierarchy had taken a conservative turn that de-emphasized social engagement and elevated the culture wars that would eventually cast Mr. Obama as an abortion-supporting enemy. Mr. Obama, who went on to find his own faith with the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr.’s Trinity United Church of Christ, drifted from his youthful, church-backed activism to become a pragmatic politician and the president with a terrorist “kill list.” The meeting this week is a potential point of confluence.

A White House accustomed to archbishop antagonists hopes the president will find a strategic ally and kindred spirit in a pope who preaches a gospel of social justice and inclusion. Mr. Obama’s old friends in the priesthood pray that Francis will discover a president freed from concerns about re-election and willing to rededicate himself to the vulnerable.

But the Vatican — aware that Mr. Obama has far more to gain from the encounter than the pope does, and wary of being used for American political consumption — warns that this will hardly be like the 1982 meeting at which President Ronald Reagan and Pope John Paul II agreed to fight Communism in Eastern Europe.

As in many reunions, expectations, and the possibility for disappointment, run high.

As Mr. Obama helped expand the program from Catholic parishes to megachurches and Protestant congregations, he felt that need slaked by the prevailing black liberation theology, inspired by the civil rights movement and preached by African-American ministers like Mr. Wright of Trinity. The notion that Jesus delivered salvation to communities that expressed faith through good deeds suited Mr. Obama’s instincts — and perhaps his interests.

[hoosiermama]

Neither of your contacts are correct addresses or courts to contact. The correct one needs a person on the ground to sift through volumes of records. Office is not willing to do the work

Not my research its people who either have experience and know how things work or someone’s research quoting other sources. All I’ve done is compile it and ask questions and encourage media to find the answers.
There is NO supposition. If you think there is as
Your comments indicate your comprehension level needs work

[Brown Deer]

There is NO supposition.

You say there are probate records that are not available, but cannot back up that statement.

Your comments indicate your comprehension level needs work

Really? How so?

[hoosiermama]

Rolla Charles Payne died in 15 October of 1968 Probate records iirc are not in the county he is buried in but where he lived The material should be in the link sent earlier.
While you at it see if you can find registration of the family trust. May be under Madelyn’s name as that’s what was listed on his taxes a couple of years back

You go for it. Several others have and failed to get the probate records

[Fred Nerks]

In the real world Madelyn wouldn’t have been catching a bus to work and Stanley Armour wouldn’t have been selling insurance on the telephone and suffering the knockbacks all telemarketers suffer, if there was money pouring in from oil lease royalties.

[Seizethecarp]

“It’s Sheila. See the vertical line after the S for the beginning of the h. The hump on the h and the e is what you’re seeing as an a in Saila.”

I realized, belatedly, that you and others are correct and I was mistaken. Sorry about that!

[Brown Deer]

You are assuming that there were probate records. So far, I’ve seen no evidence of him ever having much money.

[majormaturity]

Good point!

[daniel1212]

I missed this article till now. Interesting.

“He had to do a power analysis of each Catholic church,” said one of his mentors at the time, Gregory Galluzzo, a former Jesuit priest and disciple of the organizer Saul Alinsky. Mr. Obama, Mr. Galluzzo said, soon understood the chain of command and who had influence in individual parishes.

The future president’s education included evangelizing. Mr. Obama often plotted strategy with the recent Catholic convert who had hired him, Gerald Kellman, about how to bring people into the program and closer to the church.

He was not baptized Catholic, priests said. But it was amid the trappings of Catholicism, according to his fellow organizers, that the future president began to express a spiritual thirst...he felt that need slaked by the prevailing black liberation theology... - http://nyti.ms/1h8yiXi

[redleghunter]

Yes very interesting. He received quite an extensive liberation theology education from the Chicago archdiocese, Muslim schooling and Rev. Wright to boot. No wonder we are in a mess with more to come.

[Elsie]

Hey zippy have a candid conversation about abortion

I'd like to thank the United States Government for protecting me and my kind.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You see, 40 years ago, my odds of making it out of the egg, alive, were very poor; about 80% of us died. 

 (http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=rachel-carson-silent-spring-1972-ddt-ban-birds-thrive)

 

 

But a lady discovered our plight and wrote a book that addressed our problem,

and, in 1972, a law was ammended protecting us even further. (http://www.fws.gov/midwest/eagle/protect/laws.html)

 

 

 

 

 

 

What I find strange is that the same government passed a law the very next year that allowed for killing

of unborn, and apparently unwanted, humans.  Little ones still nestled safely in their Mother's womb.

Around 25% of them are dying before birth - on average nearly 3,300 - every day of the year.

 

 

I hear that by now, somewhere around 55 MILLION of them have perished.

Wouldn't that kind of mess up the humans plans for growth, and welfare, and

retirement?

 

 

 

 

 

Strange birds; these Homo Sapiens.  Perhaps they'll come to their senses

before they are ALL dead!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'd like to thank the United States Government for protecting me and my kind.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You see, 40 years ago, my odds of making it out of the egg, alive, were very poor; about 80% of us died. 

 (http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=rachel-carson-silent-spring-1972-ddt-ban-birds-thrive)

 

 

But a lady discovered our plight and wrote a book that addressed our problem,

and, in 1972, a law was ammended protecting us even further. (http://www.fws.gov/midwest/eagle/protect/laws.html)

 

 

 

 

 

 

What I find strange is that the same government passed a law the very next year that allowed for killing

of unborn, and apparently unwanted, humans.  Little ones still nestled safely in their Mother's womb.

Around 25% of them are dying before birth - on average nearly 3,300 - every day of the year.

 

 

I hear that by now, somewhere around 55 MILLION of them have perished.

Wouldn't that kind of mess up the humans plans for growth, and welfare, and

retirement?

 

 

 

 

 

Strange birds; these Homo Sapiens.  Perhaps they'll come to their senses

before they are ALL dead!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Elsie]

... raise a phantom cigarette to his lips and ask, “Want to go out for lunch?”

---

Two Jesuit novices both wanted a cigarette while they prayed. They decided to ask their superior for permission. The first asked but was told no.

A little while later he spotted his friend smoking and praying. "Why did the superior allow you to smoke and not me?" he asked.

His friend replied, "Because you asked if you could smoke while you prayed, and I asked if I could pray while I smoked!"

[Seizethecarp]

Posting revelation of ID of Obama’s 1988 girlfriend as Sheila Miyoshi Jager:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3549859/posts?q=1&;page=51