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Tony Norman: Why can't gun lovers handle rational limits?
post-gazette.com ^ | 3/17/2014 | tony norman

Posted on 03/22/2014 10:47:37 AM PDT by rktman

An action alert was sent to tens of thousands of gun control supporters across the commonwealth over the weekend: Five firearms-related bills designed to weaken the state's already porous gun laws will come before the state House Judiciary Committee today. Because this is Pennsylvania -- a state where the gun lobby can pretty much dictate to our do-nothing lawmakers when they can and can't go to the bathroom -- groups like CeaseFirePA don't have the luxury of mincing words when it comes to motivating supporters to pressure their representatives in the Legislature to do the right thing.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: 2a; banglist; guncontrol
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To: rktman

Hey, Mr. Norman, how about we set “rational limits” to your free speech rights - and, oh, by the way, I get to define “rational”.


21 posted on 03/22/2014 11:38:30 AM PDT by Stosh
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To: rktman

To the author: Define infringe for me, and then we can talk. Moron.


22 posted on 03/22/2014 11:38:40 AM PDT by vpintheak (I will not comply!)
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To: rktman

Rational limits, defined and enforced by collectivists. What could possibly go wrong?


23 posted on 03/22/2014 11:44:47 AM PDT by lurk
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To: andyk; Popman; rktman
Many including myself think almost any limit except preventing criminals and mentally ill from owning guns is over the rational line. ...

Be very careful what you agree to.

The definition of mentally ill can be very broad. It can encompass everything from something like temporary post partum depression to schizophrenia.

Most mental illness would not preclude gun ownership. Only those adjudicated as mentally ill as being a danger to themselves or others should be prohibited from owning guns.

The Left would take an open ended statement like “the mentally ill” and march a battalion of restrictions through the gap. They are currently ready to diagnose every soldier that has ever seen combat with PTSD so they can restrict their right to own guns.

24 posted on 03/22/2014 11:46:00 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: rktman

Oh come on, guys. They’re ‘rational’ limits, and who else is better qualified to determine ‘rational’ limits on firearms ownership than a bunch of city dwelling liberal nimrods who don’t know a damn thing about firearms or the people who legally own them. What could possibly go wrong?


25 posted on 03/22/2014 11:49:40 AM PDT by VOR78
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To: rktman

Freedom cannot be rationed.


26 posted on 03/22/2014 11:53:04 AM PDT by The Public Eye
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To: rktman

Tony Norman appears to be the newspaper “sob sister”. They are editorialists who are hired specifically to irritate readers. Often, if they do not generate enough hate mail, they are fired.

They always have limits, however, because if they annoy the public too much, they will be fired for that as well.


27 posted on 03/22/2014 11:55:35 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (WoT News: Rantburg.com)
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To: Pontiac

Yup. Headed that way. Depressed? Anxious? Be vewwy vweey cawefull what you say or express. Basically, keep quiet.


28 posted on 03/22/2014 11:56:02 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Redneck. Race: Daytona 500)
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To: Pontiac

ATF Form 4077 line f is where the line should be draw...

Anything outside of that standard should contested tooth and nail...


29 posted on 03/22/2014 11:56:13 AM PDT by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: rktman
These days, a blind man who has already killed someone in what authorities in his state considered a legitimate shooting accident can demand that the arsenal of guns confiscated from his home during the investigation be returned to him so that he can once again feel "safe."

The gun lobby does not consider arming blind people an absurdity and views any restriction on gun ownership as inherently unconstitutional.

So this guy is saying that the handicapped are second class citizens and not entitled to the same rights as other citizens.

And by the way the government is not arming this man they are returning his legal property (which was probably illegally confiscated). The man is arming himself which is his right.

30 posted on 03/22/2014 11:59:17 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: rktman
Where's the "BARF ALERT!!!"?
31 posted on 03/22/2014 12:04:43 PM PDT by TXnMA (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! REPEAT San Jacinto!!!)
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To: rktman
As a journalist, I'm a big fan of the First Amendment and the principle of free speech. Even so, I don't believe free speech is absolute in every case imaginable or even in most cases -- you can't yell "fire" in a crowded theater. Free speech that undermines or harms society should be limited and subject to sanctions.

Boy this guy is goose stepping little fascist isn’t he.

He is ready to gut the Bill of Rights from groin to gullet.

32 posted on 03/22/2014 12:07:19 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Popman

“We need to hold people accountable first who are taking these drugs...”

We need to hold people accountable first who are making these drugs available...ie, the psychiatrists...


33 posted on 03/22/2014 12:09:28 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: rktman

Because there are no rational limits!


34 posted on 03/22/2014 12:10:16 PM PDT by BillT (If you can not stand behind our military, you might as well stand in front of them!)
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To: rktman

Why can’t Big Government Lovers handle limits?


35 posted on 03/22/2014 12:11:06 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Popman

“Mr. Norman....we already have rational limits on gun ownership”

I would even go so far as to say we have irrational limits on gun ownerhsip.


36 posted on 03/22/2014 12:13:05 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: rktman

2A implies nothing about hunting ...

but it implies plenty about not being prey.


37 posted on 03/22/2014 12:18:59 PM PDT by glock rocks (If you like your health plan, you're a racist !)
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To: Georgia Girl 2; Popman

>> I would even go so far as to say we have irrational limits on gun ownership

bttt


38 posted on 03/22/2014 12:20:43 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Pontiac

You got that exactly right. I would make a bet that in the not distant future, anyone who ever took a valium after a bereavement or some such, is going to be on the list as “mentally unstable” and not eligible for Second Amendment rights.

That’s why I can’t say it enough, do NOT register your guns!


39 posted on 03/22/2014 12:22:50 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Pontiac

limits evolves in to “limiters”.


40 posted on 03/22/2014 12:28:20 PM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Redneck. Race: Daytona 500)
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