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1 posted on 03/19/2014 3:22:43 PM PDT by NYer
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Ping!


2 posted on 03/19/2014 3:23:10 PM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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There are still a few Stalin era prison camps in Siberia that are in need of new occupants. I’m sure that Putin will generously give the Ukrainian Catholics an all expense paid permanent vacation there, just as Stalin did to the Crimean Tartars.


3 posted on 03/19/2014 3:29:12 PM PDT by GreyFriar ( Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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I thought all of the Ukrainian Catholics were here in Pennsylvania!


4 posted on 03/19/2014 3:30:45 PM PDT by miserare (2014--The Year We Fight Back!)
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BTTT


5 posted on 03/19/2014 3:36:45 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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Sounds like a replay of 1843.


14 posted on 03/19/2014 4:20:15 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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Prayers of protection for the priests.


17 posted on 03/19/2014 4:26:57 PM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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It happens in communist counties


18 posted on 03/19/2014 4:27:57 PM PDT by Nifster
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Eastern Orthodox, AKA the “Mother Church of Russia” and the official Church of the USSR.


23 posted on 03/19/2014 4:55:06 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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“Upon seeing portraits of Roman Shukhevych [...] Fr. Kvych’s captors accused him of being in the “SS Army,” a reference to Nazi Germany.”

It is very interesting that a Catholic Priest would have a poster of this man on their wall.

In 1934, he was arrested for trying to assassinate the Polish cultural minister.

Bandera led the more extreme totalitarian faction of OUN(OUN-B) that was primarily responsible for the massacre of 70,000 Poles in Volhynia & Galicia during WWII.

(Historical background: In 1937, the Polish government in Volhynia pushed Polonization and tried to forcibly convert the Orthodox population to Roman Catholicism. Over 190 Orthodox churches were destroyed and 150 converted to Roman Catholic cathedrals.)

Here is a sample order from the Bandera’s faction regional leader:
“We should make a large action of the liquidation of the Polish element. As the German armies withdraw, we should take advantage of this convenient moment for liquidating the entire male population in the age from 16 up to 60 years. We cannot lose this fight, and it is necessary at all costs to weaken Polish forces. Villages and settlements lying next to the massive forests, should disappear from the face of the earth”.

Here’s a sample letter from a commandant reporting directly to OUN-B: “On September 29, 1943, I carried out the action in the villages of Wola Ostrowiecka, and Ostrivky. I have liquidated all Poles, starting from the youngest ones. Afterwards, all buildings were burned and all goods were confiscated”.

Bandera wasn’t in charge during the massacres, but he was in charge when they made policy decisions like this:

“Moskali, Poles, Jews are hostile to us must be exterminated in this struggle, especially those who would resist our regime: deport them to their own lands, importantly: destroy their intelligentsia that may be in the positions of power ... Jews must be isolated, removed from governmental positions in order to prevent sabotage, those who are deemed necessary may only work with an overseer... Jewish assimilation is not possible.”

Leaflets from his faction while he was in charge in 1941 called for the “destruction” of “Moscow”, Poles, Hungarians and Jewry.

The OUN-B (Bandera’s faction) was directly condemned by the leader of the Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church for its violence.


37 posted on 03/19/2014 5:52:14 PM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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How much of this is persecution of Catholics (eastern) because they are Catholics vs. persecution of people who are suspected of aiding the "enemy" -- Pro-Ukranian nationalist forces -- who happen to be Catholic (eastern)? I know some of each is occurring but don't have a handle on the proportions.

Concerning western Catholicism, I noticed on reading Wikipedia that Russia itself has four dioceses for Catholics of the Latin Rite, including 1 archdiocese.

40 posted on 03/19/2014 6:04:18 PM PDT by steve86 (to the nearest on-shore cell tower or repeater).)
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The problem is that nobody believes them that makes neither Catholic nor Orthodox.
In Serbia, there are very few of them , mostly Romanians . They do not have their own church , because neither Catholic nor Orthodox want to help them.
Now they are just in my city managed to get unused old Lutheran church .
Uniates , that is, the Greek Catholics , are very very isolated . Catholics do not consider Catholics and Orthodox Christians consider them as “ traitors “ . For example , neither Catholics nor Orthodox do not want and do not enter into marriage with them . Between them , Orthodox and Catholics regularly enter into marriage , and it is quite a regular occurrence . In addition, the problem is that Catholics - at least in Serbia - mostly Hungarians , who by the rule can not stand Romanians and Serbs on the other side who are supposed to be brothers in faith with Romanians - can not stand them because they Uniates .
Priemr that I know personally that the Uniate priest had problems needed to translate documents from Romanian into Serbian . When word spread that he Greco-Catholic , no one wanted to translate , he had to go to another city for a translation . The church was renovated , the problem is that iakos to find the money - I can not to find a contractor . Catholics and Orthodox Christians simply ignore them .


85 posted on 03/20/2014 8:09:37 AM PDT by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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When the “S” hits the fan, seems Christians get the brunt of it. These Orthodox/Catholic wars are very sad and they point at cultural Christianity when it should be devout Christianity.


90 posted on 03/20/2014 2:40:58 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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