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This makes it pretty conclusive that it was either the pilots, or someone already took over the plane. I wonder if they can do a voice analysis -- one would think they should be able to do that to find out whether one of the pilots spoke those final words or someone else.
1 posted on 03/16/2014 12:27:57 PM PDT by Innovative
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Real final words - Allah Akbar!


2 posted on 03/16/2014 12:32:16 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Innovative

Now we’re gettin’ somewhere.


3 posted on 03/16/2014 12:35:32 PM PDT by moovova
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Weren’t most of the passengers Chinese citizens?

Don’t seem to be hearing much from the Chinese govt?

Surprised at this.


4 posted on 03/16/2014 12:38:16 PM PDT by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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It's looking a lot like one or both of the pilots planned this carefully.

They chose to go dark right at the hand-off point between Malaysian ATC and Vietnamese, maximizing the time before they would be missed. Then they turned west to minimize tracking by military radar. Then probably northwest towards a destination somewhere in the 'stans.

There remains the problem of Indian and other military radar along the way. How do they react to non-transponding blips? Perhaps, Captain Zaharie tail-gated a legitimate flight for a ways. ATC would see the legitimate flight's squawk. Military radar would see the legitimate squawk along with a slightly brighter blip?

5 posted on 03/16/2014 12:38:59 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Innovative; a fool in paradise; Slings and Arrows

According to later reports the last words recorded were as follows: “Famous last words!”


6 posted on 03/16/2014 12:40:55 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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No doubt it was one of the pilots. But which one? Was it the 53 year old father of three, aviation enthusiast and political opponent of the current Malaysian leadership? Or was it the 26 year old well connected pampered co pilot who fancies himself a stud and who’s father is well connected politically?Hunch: The 26 year old came on to one of those hot flight attendants and she told him in no uncertain terms to get lost. He was probably angry and humiliated. Young men in that condition do silly and impulsive things. He probably went jihadist and thought if he killed his mostly infidel Chinese passengers, he would be a martyr and get his 72 virgins. Investigators should interview Malaysian flight attendants to learn the real deal about these pilots. Actually probably will never know what really happened but the Malaysian government no doubt will blame the older pilot.


7 posted on 03/16/2014 12:41:00 PM PDT by allendale
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There was an FR post earlier today (which has since been pulled) in which an apparent FR aviation expert informed us that the ACARS sends data ONLY on significant events (gear-up, gear-down, achieving cruise) and NEVER on time. So the reports that it sent out data every half hour are wrong - it would not be expected to send out more data until gear-down (which didn’t happen).


8 posted on 03/16/2014 12:41:43 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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I was thinking it was “Thank you, come again”


9 posted on 03/16/2014 12:43:55 PM PDT by rbg81
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Ping to this link!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3133902/posts?page=1#1

Innovative, thanks for the post!


10 posted on 03/16/2014 12:44:30 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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If these planes can transmit to satellites, then why do we have FDR and CVR boxes at all?

Why not transmit relevant operational data, along with cockpit voice recordings to the satellite, every 60 seconds or something, and do away with the boxes?

The airline companies can record the whole thing and toss them out after a safe landing, or keep them for a week or something.

It's bound to be less traffic than the legions of twits.

12 posted on 03/16/2014 12:48:29 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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Sorry, i9t turns out that the last recorded message appears to have been: "Roger, Roger!"
18 posted on 03/16/2014 12:54:44 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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I know nothing about aviation, so bear with me: Is there any legitimate reason why a pilot would turn off the transponder while a plane is in flight?


20 posted on 03/16/2014 12:55:19 PM PDT by GreenHornet
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According to my Chinese wife, who regularly peruses Chinese Web-Sites, the consensus among MOST Chinese, is that the plane was attempting to get to Somalia - a Muslim country, known for Piracy...

FWIW


38 posted on 03/16/2014 1:16:15 PM PDT by Paisan
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They can easily determine which pilot said those words..if a hijacking had taken place by someone ON the plane who had nothing to do with the cockpit they would have said something in code to tell control that a hijacking was taking place. I am still standing by my theory that this plane has landed somewhere, maybe it refueled, or is just sitting there, waiting for things to die down then they will fly it again


39 posted on 03/16/2014 1:17:25 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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air traffic controllers

A term used despite the American understanding of what it means here. It isn't the same thing, there isn't positive control in most areas covered by ICAO. The transponder was secured because the flight was going to turn west into an area that had radar coverage.

42 posted on 03/16/2014 1:23:12 PM PDT by xone
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Just remember, it’s not TERRORISM unless a properly registered terrorist organization issues an official statement acknowledging the act as their own.


62 posted on 03/16/2014 2:05:55 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The Texas judge's decision was to pave the way for same sex divorce for two Massachusetts women.)
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http://www.prokerala.com/travel/flight-time/from-iran-shahr/to-kuala-lumpur/

Flight time from Iran Shahr to Kuala Lumpur is 7 hours 41 minutes

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Flight Time From Kuala Lumpur To Mohenjodaro Pakistan is is 6 hours 44 minutes


67 posted on 03/16/2014 3:01:12 PM PDT by GOPJ (From a bellwether to an "oh-whateverrrr" in less than a single news cycle. -freeper Fightin Whitey)
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That's a good idea - voice analysis!

I am so sad about this and the people on the plane..

There was an Israeli news item (I think) I read that said they were sure the plane had reached Iran.

It is just very sad...I don't have much hope for those people being alive now.

78 posted on 03/17/2014 1:15:51 AM PDT by MarMema ("If Americans really wanted Obamacare, you wouldn't need a law to make them buy it." Ted Cruz)
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There is a thread up now with what I had posted about..Israel thinking the jet is in Iran. And they’re beefing up their airspace precautions.


88 posted on 03/17/2014 3:01:01 AM PDT by MarMema ("If Americans really wanted Obamacare, you wouldn't need a law to make them buy it." Ted Cruz)
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the Malaysian authorities on Monday identified the plane’s first officer as the last person in the cockpit to speak to ground control.

Now it gets scarier as I think he was a muslim and not so rated by others as a good guy who would not harm people...

89 posted on 03/17/2014 4:58:33 AM PDT by MarMema ("If Americans really wanted Obamacare, you wouldn't need a law to make them buy it." Ted Cruz)
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