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Rand Paul: GOP Must ‘Agree to Disagree’ on Social Issues in Order to Expand Party
Mediaite ^ | March 14th, 2014 | by Andrew Kirell

Posted on 03/14/2014 12:08:38 PM PDT by US Navy Vet

In an interview with Vocativ.com, Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) expressed a desire for factions within the Republican Party to “agree to disagree” on hot-button social issues so that the GOP tent may expand to include more young people and alternative viewpoints.

Asked whether the general consensus at last week’s Conservative Political Action Conference was that the party must butt out of social issues, Paul replied:

I think that the Republican Party, in order to get bigger, will have to agree to disagree on social issues. The Republican Party is not going to give up on having quite a few people who do believe in traditional marriage. But the Republican Party also has to find a place for young people and others who don’t want to be festooned by those issues.

Paul maintained that his own view of gay marriage is one that allows the states to make decisions based on local mores, while the federal government “ought to take a neutral position” on the tax and benefit issues that arise from marriage.

The libertarian-leaning senator’s comments about the GOP echoes that of former Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels who, in 2011, suggested the party ought to call for a “truce” on social issues in order to focus on the economic recession.

His comments were immediately rebuked by social conservative types likes former Gov. Mike Huckabee and former Sen. Rick Santorum.

Sen. Paul will likely face similar criticism, as certain conservatives eye the 2016 primaries and continue the push to rally the base and distance themselves from each other in unique ways.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: fakes; libertarians; paultard; randpaul; soclib; wrongpaul2
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To: US Navy Vet

Ooh, the old stepping on the rake trick.


21 posted on 03/14/2014 12:32:49 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: US Navy Vet

If you give up social issues then the country sinks into the crapper and there will be no economic issues for Libertarians to focus on because there will be no money.


22 posted on 03/14/2014 12:32:53 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: US Navy Vet

Um. So... Sen. Paul suggests that we give up our principles so that the GOP can “have a bigger base”; and the reason we’d want the GOP to win under those circumstances is... in order to promote our principles?

This must be some rare idiomatic version of “logic” of which I was not previously aware.

(What, exactly, would be left to defend? The right of Krispy Kreme to come in more than one flavour?)


23 posted on 03/14/2014 12:33:35 PM PDT by paladinan (Rule #1: There is a God. Rule #2: It isn't you.)
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To: US Navy Vet
There will always be disagreement on "social issues". That's why those things meant to be decided on the STATE and LOCAL level by the people. One thing we on the Right can all agree on is the monstrous, out-of-control, and unconstitutional federal government is the greatest political threat to our freedom to choose our social values.

The federal government is the main force behind advancing the Leftist social agenda - the agenda of death. A sampling of some of the evils big government sponsors:
***“sodomite rights” (a legal oxymoron) – forwarded by BIG GOVERNMENT;
***the infanticide of around 70 million unborn – state anti-abortion laws prevented by BIG GOVERNMENT
***sexual perversion taught to children as young as kindergarteners – forced upon them by BIG GOVERNMENT SCHOOLS
***throughout history, more people (hundreds of millions) have been murdered by their own GOVERNMENT than by any invading army

If we kill the excess in government and get it back into its constitutional cage, we won't have to worry about agreement/disagreement on these other issues because they would be decided at the state level. Fact is, at the state level, abortion would probably be universally banned and sodomite "rights" would in many states be rejected.

Vote for the guy who best understands that GOVERNMENT IS the political, economic problem and THE FREE MARKET IS the solution. Getting rid of the unconstitutional portion of the federal government will automatically allow the American People to cure many of our social ills as well.

24 posted on 03/14/2014 12:33:38 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: DannyTN

Previously, and for generations, republicans comprise seem to be - dem propose a 10% tax increase, gop shouts victory at only 5% but year after year the combined increases have killed the country.

With libertarians, dem propose a 10% increase, Libertarians say a 10% decrease and we shout victory at 0%.


25 posted on 03/14/2014 12:34:12 PM PDT by edcoil (Not a single republican was ever a slave owner. They were all democrats.)
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To: missnry
CONSERVATIVES - HOLD THE LINE!! We are and always have been right on the social issues.

That's the spirit! And who is this Jesus guy that thinks he knows better than Moses?

HOLD THE LINE!! Don't let them tell you we must love thy neighbor and turn the other cheek! We are and always have been right on the social issues.

26 posted on 03/14/2014 12:34:30 PM PDT by freerepublicchat
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To: US Navy Vet

RAND PAUL
Evidence the Libertarian party is infiltrating the Republican Party with their immoral stances

FOR PEACE!
FOR POT!
FOR LEGAL HOOKERS!
FOR LOWERING THE AGE OF CONSENT FOR HOMOSEXUAL MALES!
FOR PAUL!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbebbqyQG6Y
Peter Schiff tells CT Libertarians they need to INFILTRATE and LIE to control the GOP


27 posted on 03/14/2014 12:36:02 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Lk 16:31 And he said unto him If they hear not Moses and the prophets neither will theybe persuaded)
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To: US Navy Vet

Without a social founding, fiscal issues will always devolve to base human nature, i.e. what can the government give me today.

This is something “fiscal conservatives” and libertarians fundamentally do not understand: there is no such thing as fiscal conservatism separated from its “social” aka moral roots.

Fiscally conservative and socially moderate is a platform at war with itself.

Conservatism works best with Reagan’s triad: fiscally conservative, socially conservative, strong military defense. Anything else is our side compromising before we even come to the table.


28 posted on 03/14/2014 12:42:57 PM PDT by ziravan (Choose Sides.)
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To: freerepublicchat
But if you care about winning elections, you might want to expand the party.

And you can't win elections by pushing away people that agree with you on more issues than your opposition.

So, they vote for your opposition instead, and your response is to complain because they won't support you.

29 posted on 03/14/2014 12:43:30 PM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: US Navy Vet

Yeppir.


30 posted on 03/14/2014 12:45:14 PM PDT by KGeorge (Till we're together again, Gypsy girl. May 28, 1998- June 3, 2013)
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To: freerepublicchat; bigbob
But if you care about winning elections, you might want to expand the party.

Anyone putting their politics above their God isn't fit to lead.

The founders made very clear in their personal writings that the form of government they gave us was for a Christian nation and would fail if this nation turned it's back on God.

Can there be any doubt that the Christian Founders we had, if they had known that the Citizens of the United States would seriously consider or allow their government to sanction the murder of their unborn babies (Abortion) or the marriage of queers/deviants of the same sex that they would not have included Amendments to the constitution forbidding both practices?

This wasn't even on their "radar" as it was inconceivable to them that this could even occur.

Trying to push this to States-rights issue is the path of cowards and is doomed to failure with unscrupulous activist Judges and A Supreme Court filled with jurists that believe they can force us to buy health insurance coupled with the 14th Amendments Equal Protection Clause (The Equal Protection Clause is part of the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution. The clause, which took effect in 1868, provides that no state shall deny to any person within its jurisdiction "the equal protection of the laws").

Rand Paul knows this as well, but willing to wrap himself in a pretend conservative mantel called States Rights, he is willing to let Pervert Marriage be implement, because he knows eventually, that if it is allowed to be a States Rights issue, eventually, the Feds will employ the Equal Protection Clause to state all States have to allow Gay Marriage.
31 posted on 03/14/2014 12:45:47 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: ziravan
This is something “fiscal conservatives” and libertarians fundamentally do not understand: there is no such thing as fiscal conservatism separated from its “social” aka moral roots.

And you don't understand that fiscal conservatives and libertarians don't accept your premise. You can argue until you are blue in the face, but neither side will agree.

This is what Rand Paul means by "agreeing to disagree". Your choice is to work on the things you agree about, or lose because you refuse to set aside your differences.

32 posted on 03/14/2014 12:46:33 PM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: US Navy Vet

“The Republican Party is not going to give up on having quite a few people who do believe in traditional marriage. But the Republican Party also has to find a place for young people and others who don’t want to be festooned by those issues.”

IOW, social conservatives: Just vote for us and shut the hell up!

This cup of STFU has been brought to you by Rand Paul & the GOP-E.


33 posted on 03/14/2014 12:49:45 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (I sooooo miss America!)
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To: US Navy Vet

It depends on the social issue.

The simple fact is that conservatives aren’t going to win without picking up at least some of the libertarian vote. Personally I think a compromise on drug legalization might be enough but I have yet to see a libertarian willing to accept decriminalization is a reasonable compromise.

The only other issue is gay marriage and that’s not a compromise conservatives should be willing to accept.


34 posted on 03/14/2014 12:49:45 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: US Navy Vet

He doesn’t stand for something and readily falls for anything. What’s bad is he tries to make others fall.


35 posted on 03/14/2014 12:50:12 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: justlurking

Since the hard-core libertarians aren’t going to lift a finger to help me on issues I care about, why should I help them?


36 posted on 03/14/2014 12:52:34 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (I sooooo miss America!)
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To: DannyTN

“In other words, Conservatives have to compromise with libertarians”

There are a lot of conservatives who believe in states rights. Me being one of them. Rick Perry being another. He’s not a Libertarian and neither am I. Believing in states rights does not make you a Libertarian. It just means that the states get to decide a lot of issues for themselves.


37 posted on 03/14/2014 12:52:50 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: US Navy Vet

The Washington virus has infected Paul, he is toast.


38 posted on 03/14/2014 12:53:07 PM PDT by Lets Roll NOW (A baby isn't a punishment, Obama is)
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To: Lets Roll NOW

He had the “Libertarian Virus” first!


39 posted on 03/14/2014 12:54:26 PM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: US Navy Vet

GDit...I knew it!!! Thank God it didn’t take him forever to reveal his true beliefs.

RP, which issues would like us to cave on first?


40 posted on 03/14/2014 12:54:42 PM PDT by areukiddingme1 (areukiddingme1 is a synonym for a Retired U.S. Navy Chief Petty Officer and tired of liberal BS.))
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