Posted on 03/14/2014 9:03:51 AM PDT by SatinDoll
Military radar evidence suggests the missing Malaysia Airlines jetliner was deliberately flown west toward the Indian Oceans Andaman Islands, sources told Reuters on Friday as mounting evidence pointed to a criminal inquiry into Flight MH370.
Two sources told Reuters that an unidentified aircraft believed by investigators to be the missing Boeing 777 - was following a route between navigational way-points, indicating it was being flown by someone with aviation training when it was last plotted on military radar off the country's northwest coast.
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Since MAL was not a subscriber, this is probably a reporting system that even the pilots were not aware of. Whether the hijackers were the two MAL pilots or were passengers, when the hijackers turned off the transponders they probably had no idea about this other system pinging satellites periodically. So this satellited pinging mechanism was probably not turned off by the hijackers. Indeed, if they were aware of it and how to turn it off (if that is even possible), then they would have done so hours earlier when they turned the transponder off.
If that is the case, the plane crashed or landed somewhere in the flight radius between where the last ping occurred and when the next ping would have occurred.
Another twist and turn to the story. Reports are published then denied. Published again and denied. We are being jerked from the East coast to the West coast of Malaysia. This is definitely like a mystery novel. I can see a movie comming out after this is over. Quite the plot. Heck the first parts may already be written and are just waiting on the final outcome.
How do you know the ACARS was not disabled?
You got it. That is what actually happened. The remaining mystery is why the crew allowed it to happened.
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The airliner was highjacked between 1am - 130am early Saturday morning. By 6am they were far away from the Straits of Malaysia. They could have refueled and been out over the IO without anyone looking for them. If they went over India then they probably used false ID but I do not believe they did that. It has been six days since they disappeared with no one looking for them the first 36 hours. They might have stuck to open ocean, far from land.
My supposition has always been that they headed for a large landing strip on the Maldives Archipelago, then onto the Middle East. No one last weekend seems to have been looking for them in the western IO.
I do not know. I do know that 2 of the 3 required reports were sent. The AHM was not disabled. So I assume likewise that the ACARS was not disabled. Even if it was disabled, we still know the approximate 777 ground track from the AHM and the satellite ground tracks.
What is ACARS using to report status? Is it using SATCOM? If so, couldn’t it be disabled by a hostile crew? It’s farfetched but possible. As for AHM, are you saying it pings the Boeing servers even if the country isn’t a subscriber? Nevertheless, an Iridium transceiver could be disabled, too. Again, it would take a knowledgeable crew to do something like that, but I think that’s where the conspiracy theories are leading. If a terrorist crew was smart enough to take over the flight and fly it to a secret destination, they’d probably know about the on board systems.
Excellent points!
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Which of these fields have hangars big enough to hide a 777?
The Iridium transponder was not disabled. That was the source of the pings. The satellite cannot be controlled or disabled by a user. The ACARS would only tell us that the gear came down.
Anything it can. SATCOM overwater, with HF secondary backup, again overwater, out of VHF range.
Simple to disable through circuit breakers in the cockpit.
AHM is a different system completely.
This would seem to indicate that the plane has crashed since there was no third report (wheels down) from the system. I have a hard time believing the pilots, at least the FO, didn’t know about the AHM, even if MAL didn’t subscribe to the service.
Who cares about the ACARS? The final engine data report would have been triggered by the gear down event and would have provided some routine engine data. It’s the AHM ping data that tells us where the plane is.
The reporting has been all over the map on this. Can you confirm/refute stories that state the AHM can:
- Send altitude data
- Send Direction of travel data
- Send positional data
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I believe all such power-related items on the a/c have an individual breaker that may be pulled manually.
That there wasn't a "gear down" data packet bodes seriously ill, I think. If that's correct, it would've had to belly-in somewhere, on the ocean or land. That the Mal-Asians probably aren't capable of mounting a dredging operation is a pretty strong indicator why the USN dispatched such a ship toward the Indian Ocean.
Would that be roughly where Muzzies surmise OBL's carcass to have been sent to Davey Jones' locker?
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None of the 777 expert talking heads I have listened to for the past 6 days have even mentioned the AHM let alone how it works. I am an aerospace engineer and experienced pilot. I did not know about the AHM until I started google searching AHM and ping yesterday.
No, no, and no. If an airline does not subscribe, the data is not available. The tracking of the aircraft would be calculated via satellite ground tracks that actually received the pings from the Iridium transponder on the 777.
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