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To: grania

“Then don’t come whining to us for help.”

In 1991 to 1994 the Russian Federation, United States, Great Britain, and France compelled the Ukraine to enter into agreements which required the surrender of Soviet nuclear weapons to the Russian Federation in exchange for the guarantee of the Ukrainian territorial integrity by the Russian Federation, United States, and Great Britain. The guarantors of Ukraine’s territorial integrity, among whom is the United States, now have an obligaton under those agreements and international law to fulfill the terms of the agreement and act to restore the territorial integrity of the Ukraine as promised in the agreements. Your attempt to mischaracterize the Ukrainian restraint against providing any further false pretext for the complete invasion and conquest of the Ukraine by Putin’s Russian autocratic regime is disgraceful.

“The US is in serious debt, so why should we subsidize your fuel bill?”

Given the fact that I am a U.S. citizen, your false remark saying, “your fuel bill” is false and presumptuous. You might also ask Putin why the U.S. taxpayer should be expected to pay for a Ukrainian fuel bill to Putin’s Russian regime after Putin’s covert intelligence agent, Viktor Andriyovych Yushchenko, was used by Putin to loot and destabilize the Ukrainian economy and government in preparation for a Russian conquest of the Ukraine?

“The reason we respect Putin is he is doing something our last few presidents have been unwilling to do. That would be to defend his country and countrymen from invasion.”

You seem to be under the mistaken impression that we failed to recognize how you admire brutal and murderous dictatorships like Putin’s and Yushchenk’s regime who made its opponents disappear in the night in the same manner os the Soviet NKVD and the Germna NAZI Gestapo.

Another of your deceitful remarks is your misrepresenting Putin’s naked aggression, invsion, and annexation of other nation’s territories as the exact opposite, “to defend his country and countrymen from invasion.” You sound just like the apologists for Saddam Hussein and his murderous regime.

“It’s not okay to do what was done in Kiev, with CIA inspired violent demonstrations. In the US, protestors who reached that extreme would be arrested, and if they posed a threat to non-protestors, shot.”

The people of the Ukraine no matter what their ethnicity require no inspiration whatsoever from non-Ukrainians to rise up in protests, peaceful or not, against the Russians who were responsible for the genocidal murders of tens of millions of Ukrainians of all ethnicities and the proscription of the Ukrainian language, schools, and culture. The fact that Putin’s Russian regime used their intelligence agent, Yushchenko, to violate and subvert the Ukrainian Constitution and rule of law in a bid to forcibly bring the Ukraine into an annexation by Russia can have no other result than resistance by the people whose families underwent wholesale extermination at the hands of Russians. Your Russians have already shot and murdered millions too many Ukrainians for them to tamely submit to such Russian murders again.


15 posted on 03/12/2014 7:54:47 AM PDT by WhiskeyX ( provides a system for registering complaints about unfair broadcasters and the ability to request a)
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To: WhiskeyX

What’s happened to Ukranians is obviously something you know more about than I do. But I do know not our affair, and shouldn’t detract from our concern about what’s happening to our economy and the invasion of the US. We shouldn’t loan them money or defend them.


16 posted on 03/12/2014 8:04:36 AM PDT by grania
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To: WhiskeyX

CORRECTION. I meant to write Viktor Yanukovych, and not Viktor Yushchenko. My apologies for misspeaking.

In 1991 to 1994 the Russian Federation, United States, Great Britain, and France compelled the Ukraine to enter into agreements which required the surrender of Soviet nuclear weapons to the Russian Federation in exchange for the guarantee of the Ukrainian territorial integrity by the Russian Federation, United States, and Great Britain. The guarantors of Ukraine’s territorial integrity, among whom is the United States, now have an obligaton under those agreements and international law to fulfill the terms of the agreement and act to restore the territorial integrity of the Ukraine as promised in the agreements. Your attempt to mischaracterize the Ukrainian restraint against providing any further false pretext for the complete invasion and conquest of the Ukraine by Putin’s Russian autocratic regime is disgraceful.

“The US is in serious debt, so why should we subsidize your fuel bill?”

Given the fact that I am a U.S. citizen, your false remark saying, “your fuel bill” is false and presumptuous. You might also ask Putin why the U.S. taxpayer should be expected to pay for a Ukrainian fuel bill to Putin’s Russian regime after Putin’s covert intelligence agent, Viktor Yanukovych, was used by Putin to loot and destabilize the Ukrainian economy and government in preparation for a Russian conquest of the Ukraine?

“The reason we respect Putin is he is doing something our last few presidents have been unwilling to do. That would be to defend his country and countrymen from invasion.”

You seem to be under the mistaken impression that we failed to recognize how you admire brutal and murderous dictatorships like Putin’s and Viktor Yanukovych’s regime who made its opponents disappear in the night in the same manner os the Soviet NKVD and the Germna NAZI Gestapo.

Another of your deceitful remarks is your misrepresenting Putin’s naked aggression, invsion, and annexation of other nation’s territories as the exact opposite, “to defend his country and countrymen from invasion.” You sound just like the apologists for Saddam Hussein and his murderous regime.

“It’s not okay to do what was done in Kiev, with CIA inspired violent demonstrations. In the US, protestors who reached that extreme would be arrested, and if they posed a threat to non-protestors, shot.”

The people of the Ukraine no matter what their ethnicity require no inspiration whatsoever from non-Ukrainians to rise up in protests, peaceful or not, against the Russians who were responsible for the genocidal murders of tens of millions of Ukrainians of all ethnicities and the proscription of the Ukrainian language, schools, and culture. The fact that Putin’s Russian regime used their intelligence agent, Yushchenko, to violate and subvert the Ukrainian Constitution and rule of law in a bid to forcibly bring the Ukraine into an annexation by Russia can have no other result than resistance by the people whose families underwent wholesale extermination at the hands of Russians. Your Russians have already shot and murdered millions too many Ukrainians for them to tamely submit to such Russian murders again.


19 posted on 03/12/2014 9:00:34 AM PDT by WhiskeyX ( provides a system for registering complaints about unfair broadcasters and the ability to request a)
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