Posted on 03/11/2014 4:08:33 PM PDT by PaulCruz2016
An elderly woman violated her probation by leaving bread crumbs out in her yard for crows and will remain behind bars.
Eighty-one-year-old Mary Musselman was first arrested last month for feeding bears in her backyard. One of the bears was euthanized over it because the Fish and Wildlife Service said the bears might learn not to be afraid of people anymore and then get aggressive.
The judge in the case warned Musselman not to feed any more wild animals of any kind:
A judge gave her probation at the time, and made it clear: Do it again, and go to jail. She did, was arrested in January, and the case ignited controversy when Musselman was held without bond.
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*sigh*
What are you smoking? What does that have to do with how to handle an old woman doing wrong things that can harm people?
Their actions can’t harm someone, except for tripping and falling. Her actions CAN harm someone.
It is the same mentality pal
“Let’s lock up and old lady suffering dementia, because!”
“Let’s suspend a kid for making a gun shape, because!”
So while you are busy wanting to take charge and run somebody else’s life, just recall that someday someone else will do the same and more for your life.
Not your call to jail the woman, it is up to her family to take action.
Those are the people that need to step up.
Not the police
And not you.
You’re still speaking as if she were responsible for her actions.
You seem as if you are unaware of the core problem and think that it can be “fixed.”
Your arguments are irrational and high handed. You can’t comprehend the problems
associated with Alzheimer’s, so nothing you’re suggesting will do the slightest bit of
good.
Try going to a home for senile, demented, and Alzheimer’s patients and
1. Ask them to stop doing something.
2. Make them stop doing something.
3. Get ready for hysterical and violent responses.
4. Get thrown out on your butt and carted away by the LEOs.
They will never understand Alzheimer’s.
They need to witness it firsthand in someone they love.
Yes, I know. I’m done with this pig-headed person. He or she just
keeps repeating “jail her” “force her” and on and on ad nauseam.
Bruce Lee said, “Do not waste yourself.” I will stop wasting myself, Sensei.
Agreed.
We don't know this woman but it is a fact that all 81 y.o. women are not sweet little old ladies.
The family’s call? Really? Tell me, what is their authority to MAKE her do anything? They can only ask her. She can say no, whether dementia, just a nasty old woman, or anything.
You’re right though. We should leave it up to her and her family if it is okay to draw bears into the neighborhood. It isn’t like anyone else should have the right to care. It isn’t like her actions are endangering them, their children, and their property. Oh, wait. Her actions are doing that.
Is that snarkey enough for you?
Yes, that family’s call.
Not yours, not mine, not the police.
You really have no idea what dealing with Alzheimer’s is like.
Here’s a suggestion, go see what it’s like!
“You’re still speaking as if she were responsible for her actions.”
She may not be responsible, but that only changes it from a criminal to a mental issue. Either way, bad actions have to be controlled.
Her actions, regardless of cause, have a high capability to affect others. That isn’t going to be ignored by those people. Accept that now, because that is simply the way it will be. They are not going to allow her to cause them harm.
I’m not going to condemn her for being ill, if she is (some old people are just selfish jerks). But I’m not going to pretend that changes the issue of her actions. They need stopped. If she can’t control her own actions, someone else HAS to.
So tell me, how do you stop those actions if she refuses to do so, regardless of dementia or malice? Leave it up to the family? Assuming you gave them the authority to MAKE her do anything, her actions still need stopped. And that assumes they choose to do anything other than say “Have fun.”
If I’m in the area, I’m not going to accept that. My kids are not going to be endangered by her, I’m not going to be, and my property isn’t.
“Yes, that family’s call.
Not yours, not mine, not the police.”
And if they do nothing but let her endanger everyone else? It isn’t going to happen.
What you are saying is that it is fine for her to bait dangerous animals into the area, as long as she is fine with it, and the family is fine with it. And you are saying to Hell with everyone else she can cause harm to.
This same thing happened to friends of ours. The old lady would not stop feeding bears and it made a dangerous situation for neighbors. The law had to order her to no longer feed them, after refusing to work with her neighbors she tried to get them to back off. Didn’t happen. The courts ordered her to cease or go to jail. I have no problem with this.
Buy a clue.
Instead of repeatedly showing us how little you know understand or comprehend of Alzheimer’s, go see what it is like.
Get back to us once you figure out how to “make” an Alzheimer’s patient “do” anything, mmkay?
“Buy a clue.
Instead of repeatedly showing us how little you know understand or comprehend of Alzheimer’s, go see what it is like.”
You don’t get it. Her condition doesn’t change whether she can be allowed to do this. Would you also allow her to drive a car in her condition? I suspect you would prevent her from doing so, regardless of any other consideration.
“Get back to us once you figure out how to “make” an Alzheimer’s patient “do” anything, mmkay?””
Which is why she has to be under the care, and yes control, of someone trained to deal with her. Preferably family, but that isn’t always workable. But either way, she can’t be left to her own control. She can’t be allowed to hurt people because she is ill.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djZIEZSThUY
More socially edifying than anything you’ve tried to come up with.
She wasn’t feeding bears, she was feeding birds.
Regardless, she does not belong in jail. She is an 80 something lady with dementia.
Your chances of ‘being eaten by a bear while walking your dog or cutting your grass’, are right up there with getting hit by meteorite.
I see, so she was arrested for feeding birds?
My mom does the exact same thing, how come she’s never been arrested for feeding birds.
Furthermore, I’d say my chances of being eaten by a bear while walking my dog are considerably higher with this dummy in my neighborhood, and thus, I am happy the menace has been removed and placed in jail.
You bleeding heart is far from impressive.
Bears are no laughing matter.
Neither is locking up an elderly woman in a cage.
Two wrongs don’t make a right.
Felonious bear feeding.
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