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To: Mr Rogers
Blacks with a HS or college education are employed already. The blacks with phenomenal unemployment are in the inner city, and many of them lack the desire or attitude of doing work. The high rates of black unemployment are not driven by competitors, but by living in locations without any jobs, by welfare, etc.

But African-Americans who graduated from high-school did little better. Their 12-month unemployment rate is 26 percent.

White college graduates’ rate is a little lower, at 3.7. The unemployment rate for Hispanic college grads is 5.3 percent, and the unemployment rate for African-American college grades is 6.2 percent.

In contrast, the unemployment rate is 18.9 percent for young people who only graduate from high-school and did not attend any college.

If you’re a high school dropout you’re talking about 30 percent working. Among high school grads who graduated from high school in the last three years — we do a separate survey of them the fall after graduation — 45 percent of them held a job, the lowest in the last 50 years we’ve been collecting this data. And to make it worse, of that 45 percent, only half of them were able to get a full-time job. Only one in five young high school grads, not in college, [is] working full-time.

Location matters, but where do you think most blacks live?

As early as 1900, the duration of black unemployment was 15 percent shorter than that of whites; today it’s about 30 percent longer. To do something about today’s employment picture requires abandonment of sacred cows and honesty...

Yes, honesty about what immigration is doing to our unskilled labor force. Since the 1965 Immigration Act, we have been bringing in millions of workers to compete with native Americans. The result is lost jobs and depressed wages. In 1970 one in 21 in this country was foreign born; today it is one in 8 the highest in more than 90 years; and within a decade it will be one in 7, the highest in our history. There are 22 million immigrants in the work force, 8 million of them illegal. If we really had a shortage of labor, wages would be going up, not down.

There is good research indicating that immigration negatively impacts native employment. Borjas, Grogger, and Hanson in a 2010 article found that immigration reduces the employment of less-educated black men and increases their rate of incarceration. Their conclusions are similar to that of a 2010 academic study by Shihadeh and Barranco, which found that "Latino immigration raises black violence by first increasing black unemployment." These findings are supported by earlier work done by Kposowa, which also showed that immigration reduced black employment.

Other academic studies have also found that immigration reduces job opportunities for natives. In its 1997 study of California, the Rand Corporation concluded that in that state alone competition with immigrants for jobs caused between 128,200 and 194,000 native-born workers in the state to withdraw from the workforce. A more recent analysis by Federal Reserve economist Christopher Smith found that immigration reduces the employment of U.S.-born teenagers. This is consistent with work by Andrew Sum, Harrington, and Khatiwada showing that immigration has a significant negative impact on the employment of younger workers. The recently published Congressional Budget Office cost estimate for the Gang of Eight immigration bill (S.744), indicates that just the increases in legal immigration in the bill will increase unemployment by about 150,000 through the year 2020.

Although there is evidence that immigration reduces employment opportunities for natives, there remains a debate among economists about the extent of the job displacement. Putting aside the research, the dramatic decline in work among natives, and the enormous increase in the number not working, even before the recession, is strong evidence that labor is not in short supply in the United States.

The number of natives with no more than high school education (18 to 65) not working is 4.9 million larger in 2013 than in 2000, the number with some college not working is up 6.8 million over this time period, and the number with at least a bachelor's degree not working is up 3.8 million. (See Table 5.) As is the case when examined by age, it is very difficult to find any evidence of a labor shortage, no matter what educational group is examined.

Workers in their teens and 20s have seen their employment rates fall the most. For those in their 20s, this is true for all education levels. Even college graduates in their 20s have seen a significant decline in their rate of employment, a decline that was going on before the recession. (See Table 6.) This decline in work for those under age 30 is consistent with the possibility that immigration is playing an important role in reducing the employment of natives. Immigrants are new entrants into the labor market and most people begin their working life in their teens and 20s. One would expect that if immigration is reducing the job prospects of natives, then it would be most likely to impact younger workers. Older workers who are more established in the labor market are less likely to be impacted by new arrivals.

If amnesty was granted - and I strongly oppose it - it arguably would have no effect on black unemployment.

Nonsense. Legalizing 11.5 million (USG estimate) people, giving them work permits and and SSNs, would hurt all low skilled Americans. And these 11.5 million would be able to bring in tens of millions of their relatives thru chain migration, i.e., family reunification. Over 50% of the illegal aliens lack even a HS degree.

And in any case, discussing it is NOT the functional equivalent to hating blacks.

Pure sophistry. Passing amnesty and more than doubling legal permanent immigration along with doubling the number of guest workers annually will add close to 40 million new workers over the next 10 years. We graduate 4 million from High School annually or 40 million over the next decade. If you understand the damage this will do to American workers in terms of jobs and wages, then how can you not say that this is a form of hatred for those who suffer the greatest damage from such policies?

102 posted on 03/09/2014 8:30:03 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

“The number of natives with no more than high school education (18 to 65) not working is 4.9 million larger in 2013 than in 2000”

Any native in America without a HS education is likely to end up on welfare because they already proved they lack the ambition to get a HS diploma.

“But African-Americans who graduated from high-school did little better. Their 12-month unemployment rate is 26 percent.”

Black unemployment rates for 20 and older runs 13.5% for men and 9.6 for women. Since both have black skin, if it is blackness that is the problem, why do black men have 40% greater unemployment than black women?

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t02.htm

And unless blacks are turning out incredible numbers of college grads, the black unemployment rate is NOT 26% for High School grads.


105 posted on 03/09/2014 9:46:05 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (I sooooo miss America!)
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