I personally think the whole thing is a waste of our time and just distracts us from our more important issues right here at home.
We nominated the wrong man in 1992. And we’ve not elected an outstanding president since.
Basic cold, hard reality appears to be that the British started WW-II...
You can always trust Pat Buchanan to side with America’s adversaries. And this is probably the key factor that prevented him from gaining much traction with the GOP. It’s one thing to understand the other side’s motivations, but quite another to support their interests against America’s. But that’s what Buchanan’s been doing for decades now.
And I'll bet Palaeo Pat called them traitors and commies and beat the war drums every single time.
I'm not advocating US interference in the Ukraine/Russia impasse; I'm merely pointing out Pat's hypocrisy.
Shabbily treated? By whom? The Soviet Empire imploded. Its inhabitants rebelled. No foreign troops threatened it. No outside terms were dictated. No ignominious treaties were forced on it.
Regards,
Pat does a good job of instructing us where the many fault lines in Europe lie.
The borders of countries in Europe and Russia have changed countless times in just the time the United States has been in existence.
What is happening in the Ukraine is not black and white. I don’t know who the good guys are, who the bad guys are, or what the difference is.
All I know, is that after the debacles that our political elite made out of military victories in Iraq and Afghanistan,I am done saving the world. After 70 years of sacrifice, America has done enough.
Let the European Union send their sons and daughters into the battle. It is on their doorstep, not ours.
Yep. Of course the -tensions- of war keep our eyes focused on foreign threats to liberty, rather than the far more ominous domestic aggressors. That is something the Soviets exported lock, stock, and barrel to Versailles on the Potomac.
American Moms and Dads contributed (officially) 116,516 sons to the Euro socialists/communists/work averse, big government, statists in WW I.
In WW II, American moms and dads contributed (officially) 405, 399 sons to a Euro population that we know today is so self loathing and pacifistic that they would not get out of bed, put on a uniform and fight the Russians if they were marching down their streets. Most of the nutless men would hide behind their many times brave mommys.
When will we ever learn? I totally agree with Buchanan on this one subject.
But, my objection is based upon the foregoing. These people (euros), as a population, and with too few exceptions, are just SORRY and not worth our sons dying for. The hell with them! LET THE RUSSKIES have them and, god only knows, they probably don’t want them! Who WOULD want them?! 521,915 of our FINEST kids donated (largely against their will (draft) to sorry, no good, morally rotten to the core and decadent/spineless Europe is enough! If the SOB’s won’t fight next time, they can’t have my grandson!!!
I have more respect for the Vietnamese and Afghans, YES, in some cases, they were all drugged up but by and large they would stand and fight and die en masse for their pathetic beliefs but Euros won’t . In this current bloodless fracas, they are already sucking up to the Russians by failing to offer ANY resisting response whatsoever other than to surrender to Putin demands. Ukraine troops are joining the Russian Army and the Ukraine Navy is surrendering battleships to the Russkies. With 180 guys, William Travis, in his late twenties, said a final good bye to his young son and fought 5,000 Mexicans to his death. My point: There are “peoples” that historically have habitated this earth that ARE/WERE patriots and WILL fight for their country!
AND IN THE CASE OF THE US, we have sacrificed hundreds of thousands of our sons to fight for “OTHER PEOPLE”.
Bottom line: no consideration of helping these inferior and worthless people (continental Euros, not the UK) by donating more American sons should ever be given. 521,915 is way past ENOUGH!! Bring the F15 drivers home now!
And, please spare me the “isolationist” arguments. I will not even respond to them.
Nice to see someone who has been educated and studied history.
OR the outcome would have been Russia would have never invaded Georgia and would have not been meddling in Ukraine. We can play the what if games all day. But following Pat's logic, should the policy of the US after the cold war been to stroke the ego of the Russian Nationalists and give them control over former Soviet states and influence over former satellite nations. What about Poland? Take this model of economic freedom and let Russia influence it to avoid a potential ego war?
What Patrick is saying is that Russian ego is more important than the rule of law and freedom.
Hillary Clinton's a hysterical woman who thinks the countries of the world are sluts going after her husband. She has ZERO historical perspective.
“Between 1989 and 1991, Mikhail Gorbachev had freed the captive nations of Eastern Europe, allowed the Soviet Union to dissolve into 15 nations, and had held out a hand of friendship to the Americans. What did we do? Moved NATO right onto Russia’s front porch. We brought all the liberated nations of Eastern Europe into our military alliance, along with three former Soviet republics. The War Party tried to bring Georgia and Ukraine into NATO, which was established to contain and, if necessary, fight Russia. Had they succeeded, we could have been at war with Russia in 2008 over Georgia and South Ossetia, and today over Crimea.”
“Vent my folly!” - William Shakespeare
After the fall of Soviet Union, US and NATO believed that it owned the world and acted accordingly, in a ruthless way; it destabilized the whole planet Earth.
And here they stumbled upon a tough bone they can’t chew at - V.Putin. They can’t make war to him - he has nukes. They can’t use the gimmick UN against him, he has veto power. They can’t blackmail him, he keeps Europe by its energy needs’ balls. They can’t ruin him, Russia’s soil being filthy rich, with only 10% of this richness exploited. Wait until Putin industrialises Siberia. Besides , he’s got on his side the rising economy stars India and China.
I see the end of NATO and of the European Community in a near future.
At least with an active cold war going on, the snoop agencies (CIA, FBI, DHS, TSA, ...) will have something other than American citizens to focus their efforts on.
Doesn’t anybody play Risk anymore?
Old anti-Semite Pat outdoes himself here, managing to make excuses for Adolf Hitler.
Somehow, liberal interventionists like Clinton and neoconservatives like McCain and his pals have convinced millions of Americans that their very existence depends critically on who controls Crimea, the West Bank, Kosovo, south Ossetia, and dozens of other places most people have never heard of or cared about until they were told to care.
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