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IBM to combine Solar Thermal with Photovoltaic. Result. Power for Under 10 cents per KwH
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| 03/06/14 - 10:25 AM EST
| Dana Blankenhorn
Posted on 03/06/2014 10:46:00 AM PST by ckilmer
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posted on
03/06/2014 10:46:00 AM PST
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ckilmer
To: ckilmer
IBM corporate culture hasn’t changed much................
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posted on
03/06/2014 10:48:27 AM PST
by
Red Badger
(LIberal is an oxymoron......................)
To: ckilmer
If it works, watch for it to become a target of the greenies.
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posted on
03/06/2014 10:49:38 AM PST
by
demshateGod
(The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
To: ckilmer
Maybe 10 cents per watt, but certainly not per kWh
To: Red Badger
Heck if they can deliver solar at par or under the price of coal generated electricity...it doesn’t matter. They can be as IBM as they wanna be.
But likely if IBM can deliver these kinds of results, there’s other players in the solar community who are on track to deliver better results.
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posted on
03/06/2014 10:51:26 AM PST
by
ckilmer
To: ckilmer
That’s the ticket. IBM knows that even if this works, within a year there will be Chinese copies on the market.................
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posted on
03/06/2014 10:54:16 AM PST
by
Red Badger
(LIberal is an oxymoron......................)
To: George from New England
Maybe 10 cents per watt, but certainly not per kWh
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You got me on the metrics. However, it makes intuitive sense that if you can harness both the thermal and the photovoltaic spectrum of light, you should be able to double the output of power from a given unit of light. And therefor cut in half the cost per unit of light.
We’ll see as to whether IBM can actually do what they say they can do and whether the they’ll be able to do so a price point on par with coal.
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posted on
03/06/2014 10:56:02 AM PST
by
ckilmer
To: George from New England
I’m not getting it. I’m paying .11 cents per KwH for the first X KwH, then I am charged .13 cents per KwH. That’s residential service. Business service is always cheaper and typically 1/2 to 3/4 of residential service.
What don’t you believe about KwH?
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posted on
03/06/2014 10:56:48 AM PST
by
Usagi_yo
(Standardization is an Evolutionary dead end.)
To: ckilmer
Thanks ckilmer....There is promise in this but, Spain I believe, had a large installation like this with thousands of mirrors to redirect the sunshine. The problem developed that the mirrors got dirty and dropped efficiency so the cost savings due to maintenance was hurt.
On the other hand 'Mother Earth Magazine' had a home-built design of this which generated around 1000*F....
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posted on
03/06/2014 10:57:27 AM PST
by
virgil283
(When the sun spins, the cross appears, and the skies burn red)
To: Red Badger
I’m not sure that I buy that. However, if IBM is successful, then certainly the Chinese will try to copy them. But first things first.
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posted on
03/06/2014 10:57:51 AM PST
by
ckilmer
To: ckilmer
So how much did IBM contribute to the Obama Campaign to shut down coal?
To: George from New England
Maybe 10 cents per watt, but certainly not per kWh It's 0.10/kWh, which, in Germany, is price-competitive.
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posted on
03/06/2014 11:01:10 AM PST
by
PapaBear3625
(You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
To: ckilmer
Rancho Seco (nuclear power plant) was shuttered in the late 1980s for raising prices from the 3-cent range to the 5-cent range. Now we cheer for 10-cents from solar?
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posted on
03/06/2014 11:02:21 AM PST
by
sefarkas
(Why vote Democrat Lite?)
To: ckilmer
kilowatt-hour (KwH) The moron author got each and every letter wrong there: it's kWh.
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posted on
03/06/2014 11:09:30 AM PST
by
Moltke
(Sapere aude!)
To: PapaBear3625
I know what you say...
But I have solar panels and they are priced per watt.
Currently I see pricing in the 0.75 to $1.00 range per watt for pv panels. So something at 0.10 per watt would revolutionize this market.
What you are saying for utility price is virtually impossible.
To: ckilmer
HCPVT uses a parabolic dish of mirror facets and a sun tracking system to concentrate power on a collection of liquid-cooled photovoltaic chips. The system collects electricity through the chips and heat through the chip-cooling system. IBM's press release says it can produce energy for less than 10 cents per KwH.That's the same price as coal.
They spent $2.4 million on the project (grant money). This is not a good sales pitch for the technology. There is NO ROI, hence, it is not anywhere close to market value for demand.
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posted on
03/06/2014 11:17:44 AM PST
by
Tenacious 1
(My whimsical litany of satyric prose and avarice pontification of wisdom demonstrates my concinnity.)
To: George from New England
Currently I see pricing in the 0.75 to $1.00 range per watt for pv panels.Where? Is that a bulk price? What kind of PV cells, mono-crystalline, poly, or amorphous? I'm interested in expanding past 150 watt mono test panel. $1.45 about best I've seen in the past month.
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posted on
03/06/2014 11:23:57 AM PST
by
Covenantor
("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
To: George from New England
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posted on
03/06/2014 11:23:58 AM PST
by
PapaBear3625
(You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
To: ckilmer
HCPVT uses a parabolic dish of mirror facets and a sun tracking system to concentrate power on a collection of liquid-cooled photovoltaic chips. The Solex Agitator for The Man with the Golden Gun?
If so, be sure to keep your nifty float plane well clear of Scaramanga's toys...
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posted on
03/06/2014 11:24:50 AM PST
by
Jeff F
To: ckilmer
IBM's CEO Ginni Rometty is thrashing about
trying to find a way to make money to keep
IBM from bankruptcy.
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posted on
03/06/2014 11:31:18 AM PST
by
Uri’el-2012
(Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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