Posted on 03/04/2014 4:50:02 AM PST by klpt
A few centuries back the Inca knew this which was why they resettled their conquered people so that no one of the same culture lived next to each other and there was as wide a mix as possible.
Culture is the glue that holds a group together and the group keeps the culture alive.
Whether they are like or unlike us matters far less than how adaptable they are. Whether naturally adapted or encouraged, possibly even mildly coerced into adaptation also doesn’t matter.
This is found in places where immigrants are required to use the language of the majority, as well as following cultural norms and obeying the secular law. The icing on the cake, however, comes with the willingness of immigrants to condemn members of their community that offend the majority.
When an immigrant group “closes ranks” to protect one of their number who has broken the law and faces arrest, trial and punishment, it generates prejudice against the entire group. Only if they are willing to offer them up to the majority for equal treatment, will the majority look at them favorably as a minority.
you realize of course that this article is nothing less than Liberal propaganda. If they repeat it enough, over time, the zombie (unthinking) populace comes to internalize and accept the message as “normal”.
There was an article posted here just last night about a black neighborhood in North Philly that was complaining about “gentrification” and the loss of their culture (and the increase in property taxes as the land values rose).
A lot of the comments there supported a more diverse (read whiter) neighborhood.
Prejudiced
I will get flamed for saying so but the study is correct. People will become less prejudiced if they live in a mixed neighborhood. My reasoning is as follows:
Prejudiced: (noun) A preformed opinion usually an unfavorable one based on insufficient knowledge, irrational feelings, or inaccurate stereotypes.
If you live in a diverse neighborhood you no longer believe what the mass media tells you (insufficient Knowledge)
You know what it feels like on the ground so keeping a situational awareness is a matter of life. (Irrational feelings)
You see the reasons some minorities stay poor (Peer pressure not to act too white) You see they are not the struggling against oppressors, and noble in their fight to get ahead in a white world (inaccurate stereotypes)
Just look at how stereotypes and prejudices were changed by these two living among minorities.
Being White in Philly (http://www.phillymag.com/articles/white-philly/)
Baltimore city, you’re breaking my heart (https://medium.com/p/1873a505ce2a)
Robert Putnam, Bowling Alone. He allegedly suppressed the results for years because he couldn't believe that fake / forced diversity causes near-total destruction of social capital in that neighborhood.
You are absolutely correct. It’s just that people who “look like us” is socioeconomic in nature, not race related.
I, as an upper middle class caucasian professional have a heck of a lot more in common, “look more like” the upper middle class Asian and Indian professionals (immigrants, 1st and 2nd gen native borns) I’ve worked with and live near than a LOT of my fellow Caucasians.
I’m guessing that this “study” didn’t account for socioeconomic differences in the population groups observed ...
In the mid 70s when Dallas, TX decided to bus all the lowest of the lowest little minority thugs to nice middle class white schools and innocent white students to drug and crime infested minority schools, my parents moved hundreds of miles away the next year. It had nothing to do with race but with us getting accosted in the hallways and having to be locked inside our classrooms for safety by our black principal.
I was tolerant enough when I got my first job and fired a black guy for sleeping in the janitor’s closet. I got called on the carpet because his mama was prez of the local NAACP and her widdle baby was back getting paid to sleep on the job.
I was still tolerant enough when another job sent us a new muslim supervisor who hated women, especially left handed ones, and the first time he appeared in my doorway told me he didn’t like me before I even said hello. A few weeks later, a client gave me some watermelons (hey, this is the South) so I thought I’d offer one to the supervisor. No, he jumped a mile backward as if it was a rattlesnake and wouldn’t come near it or me.
I was becoming decidedly less tolerant when the Katrina trash blew into my town and were getting perks left and right. They were given a huge acreage in the most exclusive highest taxing area around yet don’t have to pay property tax.
When I saw first hand how illegals were getting all their education, housing, health care, etc. on my dime when we were struggling to provide for our own kids, I wasn’t so tolerant. When kiddo graduated #3 in his class but he barely got any scholarships and we had to scrape the bottom of the barrel to pay for college, he was randomly assigned an illegal DREAM roommate who had a free ride, I was getting more than annoyed.
PC has gone out the window when I see how those EBT’ers are living high off my tax dollars. I see “EBT Accepted” signs on restaurants that we can’t afford to go to. I haven’t been able to afford to the grocery store but once in the last four plus months. We’ll get by. We always do but I’m sick and tired of just getting by because we are supporting the rest of the world. No, I am not tolerant anymore and it’s not over skin color.
BTW, I suspect the author intended to use the word “acceptance” rather than “tolerance” but whatever.
It’ll be used to justfy the forcable integration of neighborhoods, as put forward in that recent Obama Administration plan/proposal (can someone please provide the link?), without any consideration to socioeconomic factors.
And it’ll be the socioeconomic factors that will drive the problems that result, not racial attitudes.
I live in a diverse neighborhood in Texas where there are no problems and the best lawn belongs to a black family up the street but it wasn’t always that way. Mortgages were “given” to families that didn’t know how to be home owners when the development first started. These new homeowners destroyed their houses, defaced the new community swimming pool area, and knew nothing about maintaining a yard. One by one their homes went into foreclosure. Now we have a great little community where people exchange cookies at Christmas and always offer a helping hand. I have to agree with someone else who said it isn’t about race but about societal issues. There are those that know how to live in a society and those that do not.
I see several of us are of the busing age. You're "no interest in being us" was even more pronounced in college when Iran sent their students here for an education. They didn't get an education because they refused to have anything to do with American students. You could see the hatred and contempt on their faces. They never spoke to us. You could say hello when passing on campus but they'd ignore you or give you a disgusted look. They never participated in class and refused to answer if the profs asked them a question. Still, they were given good grades because of the money they brought in which really messed us over on the bell curve. I had mostly forgotten about their hatred for twenty years until 9/11 brought it all back.
I’ve found that the best approach to this is to strenuously deny “racism” (which is a bullying implement designed to quickly bludgeon an opponant into silence), but to fully embrace “ethnocentrism”.
Then make Liberals defend their own ethnocentric hypocracy by forcing them to give their opinions on things like forcable cultural female genital mutilation (aka “circumcision”)
Alinksy can work both ways; make Libs live by their own “rules.”
you’re = your
I’m only tolerant of those who want to do the right thing.
work hard, act like a human being, etc.
If I cannot change the local criminal element, I MOVE.
I would take a stand if and when enough people are there with me with torches and pitchforks, but that hasn’t happened yet. I wait for the great conservative washed to join me in deposing the cheats and liers that are running and ruining this once great land.
I did the same.
The place that I ran away from was very "diverse". Liberal, medium-sized city. Neighborhood was completely mixed, a Democrat's dream. However....crime was high - for instance, my car was broken into regularly, and I could count on getting panhandled in my own yard if I was working outside for any length of time. Schools stunk - the local HS was proud - PROUD - that they'd gotten their graduation rate UP to 56%. It wasn't safe to walk around at night, or let my kids play in the yard unattended. And, after I moved away, I found out that the diversity who lived 2 houses up from me, got busted for diddling the local neighborhood kids.
I'm glad to be rid of my diverse, enlightened neighborhood.
And, if I've said this once, I've said it 100 times.....I don't CARE what the people around me look like. What I'm interested in, is that they have the same set of values - family, hard work, education, religion - that I have.
So, I wound up in a mostly middle-class, Christian, conservative area with excellent schools. It's also 98% white.
Ethnic diversity is OK, butcultural diversity is not OK. Because of culturally diverse areas we have become balkinized.
Tolerance is all a matter of viewpoint. When I was small and growing up in Minnesota, we considered tolerance to be Protestants and Catholics living in the same neighborhood, and occasionally a Jewish family in the mix. And we all got along. Then a few years ago, we were told that we were racists because no blacks lived in our city [which was not quite true, but there were relatively only a few families of blacks] - so that made us a racist city.
Now since Minnesota was settled by Yankees from New England, Germans, Scandinavians, Irish, French, Dutch, Luxembourgers - you can see that 19th century and 20th century mingling was mostly done by Europeans, and if someone expressed dissatisfaction with a group of people, we mostly ignored them and thought they were prejudiced - and that was the end of it. No whining or protesting that someone called me a name. Heck, I learned before Kindergarten that “Sticks and stones break my bones, but names will never hurt me.”
Sometimes I think that lots of people have never graduated from Kindergarden.
Frankly its had the opposite effect on me. After 25 years of it I’ve had all the diversity I can stand and we are moving to the mountains.
So Chicago is now a safe place to live?.
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