Posted on 03/03/2014 7:32:11 AM PST by Sub-Driver
Ukraine: Russia Delivers 'Assault Storm' Deadline
3:23pm UK, Monday 03 March 2014
Russia's fleet has given Ukrainian forces in Crimea until 3am to surrender or face a military assault, according to Interfax.
The ultimatum, from the commander of Russia's Black Sea Fleet Alexander Vitko, has a base in Crimea where Russian forces are now in control.
According to the agency, it reads: "If they do not surrender before 5am (3am GMT) tomorrow, a real assault will be started against units and divisions of the armed forces across Crimea."
It comes as Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev discussed the situation in Ukraine with US Vice President Joe Biden by telephone on Monday.
Mr Medvedev "declared that it is necessary to protect the interests of all Ukrainian citizens, including residents of Crimea, and citizens of Russia who are located in Ukraine......
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No worries. John Kerry is on his way over there, and as we all know, he’s a highly-decorated military genius.
Send in the clowns.
Putin knows his own country's politics. Time may be on the side of the Crimea, but Putin won't hesitate to do what he has to, NO MATTER WHAT. HE believes that what he is doing NOW is in the best interests of Russia.
I don't believe that we, here in the West, get the whole story from our media. To me, they are spineless scum who sell their souls to be near Hollywood. So who HERE really knows the whole story? NO ONE.
Oops, do I sound HARSH here?
or Russian-speaking and ethnic Crimean Russians are in the new “Sudetenland”
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ukraine-crisis/surrender-or-face-storm-russia-reportedly-tells-ukraine-n43086
Guardian:
US vice president Joe Biden and Russian prime minister Dmitry Medvedev have spoken by phone, Interfax reports.
Medvedev spoke about a need “to protect” Russians in Ukraine, Reuters quotes Medvedev spokeswoman Natalya Timakova as saying:
Medvedev “declared that it is necessary to protect the interests of all Ukrainian citizens, including residents of Crimea, and citizens of Russia who are located in Ukraine.”
“Perhaps the Crimea is just a pretext for something more?”
Good question. And I wonder if that ‘something more’ is ultimately Israel or Syria.
We will go to the UN, it will be years, nothing will happen besides some threat of sanctions. This is manufactured drama by a bored press looking for any world event to allow The Magic Negro to show he has any gonads. We should not get involved here, one Slavic communist state squabbling over land with another Slavic communist state. Some here are such lemmings, they see a protest in some town square in Kiev and think we should automatically start rattling our sabre. I know, I know Poland 1939..blah, blah. So you send your kids over into Russia(see... Napoleon and Hitler's Army Group Center and South about that) to fight for Ukrainian sovereignty. Oh I thought so...
I believe Hitler called the Ukraine “Wohnraum”: Living space
Actually, I’d say it’s more like 1938 Czechoslovakia:
Kind of ironic when you think about it...
Putin used the SAME excuse as Hitler in 1938: Supposedly, “Ethnic Germans” in Czech Sudetenland were being “threatened” by the Czechs, so he had to send in the troops to “protect” them.
And England sent Neville Chamberlain to get his “Peace of Paper” signed.
Which, of course, TOTALLY prevented World War II... /s
That would be “Lebensraum.”
Please help me sort this out
What does George Soros want as the outcome?
He has been trying to buy the Ukraine for over 20 years
So now, what is Soros’ preferred outcome here?
Russian occupation of an autonomous Crimean republic? Russian control over a nominally separate Ukrainian state?
A divided Ukraine all of which owes its existence to dancing to Putins music?
Another nasty guerrilla war against Russian occupation run by our CIA (hello 1970’s “Cold War” proxies foreign policy, you’re back but with a less competent administration than Carter)
I tend to think what Soros wants will drive obama’s “policy”
Fortunately for you, I have the complete transcript of the conversation. Here it is.
Mr. Medvedev: Mr. Vice President, Russia has taken this action to protect the interests of all Ukrainian citizens, including residents of Crimea, and citizens of Russia who are located in Ukraine.
Mr. Biden: Uruguay has the right to be free.
Mr. Medvedev: What? I didn't get that...I thought that we discussing the Ukraine.
Mr. Biden: Russia must immediately withdraw from Crimoatia.
Mr. Medvedev: Huh? Did you just say Croatia?
Mr. Biden: We have drawn solid red lines around Crimoatia.
Mr. Medvedev: *click * (hangs up)
So what send a strongly worded letter to Putin? go to the UN? or what some chicken hawks want on FR, threaten Putin with military action? You ready to start a World War over the Crimea? History including the US is about territorial expansion, borders change, some changes are precipitated by force. See Mexican American War..damn similar to this. Not saying Putin is not a total tool, but we are in no shape to act all puffed up about ourselves when it comes to our military capabilities. Not everything is Hitler and 1939. Some of the same talk I am sure we heard in 1953-1964 when it relates to Vietnam...I don't buy the media lies and zealots on both sides. they love to send other parent's kids over to fight in wars for paranoid fantasies.
Russia could have played this a lot cooler and still got Crimea.
Poland first though.
Now we know how Russia felt when we were promising shock and awe to one of their pets.
I believe “lebensraum” extended all the way to Moscow
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