Posted on 02/26/2014 4:57:14 PM PST by markomalley
Gov. Jan Brewer on Wednesday vetoed a Republican bill that set off a national debate over gay rights, religion and discrimination and subjected Arizona to blistering criticism from major corporations and political leaders from both parties.
Brewer's decision defused a national furor over gay rights and religious freedom.
The bill backed by Republicans in the Legislature was designed to give added protection from lawsuits to people who assert their religious beliefs in refusing service to gays. But opponents called it an open attack on gays that invited discrimination.
The bill thrust Arizona into the national spotlight last week after both chambers of the state legislature approved it. As the days passed, more and more groups, politicians and average citizens weighed in against Senate Bill 1062. Many took to social media to criticize the bill, calling it an attack on gay and lesbian rights.
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It doesn’t appear that the votes to override are there. Keep in mind that several people who voted for it changed their minds. A ballot initiative would be a seriously uphill battle, given the opposition that was presented.
I'm not sure how much a state constitutional amendment will matter - those get ruled unconstitutional too in a rather absurd twist of leftist NewSpeak. If the First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States no longer matters to the far left and to those in power, the rule of law is dead. It's time for civil disobedience, jury nullification, and other options. Compliance with evil is not acceptable, and our acceptable options are limited.
Well maybe I could say, I’d warn folks. I don’t want to single you out personally. Distracting memes have a way of spreading without our really thinking about them.
We should care less about folks looking like creeps and more about folks acting like creeps. I’d even sooner meet a creep who was honest about being creepy, than a phoney any day. Because then it would be possible to honestly discuss the creepy things.
That seems to be the case.
I want to thank you personally for posting the bill in its entirety.
I tried for 30 minutes to find a copy of the actual bill and only found, “commentaries” or reactions to Brewer axing the bill.
Whenever that occurs, I know they don’t want the bill to be read by people who can assess its subsance on their own.
Thank you,
EODGUY
Too turgid legalese for a LIV to parse, to be sure. It appears a dishwater-dull procedural safeguard, to actually read the text.
So it’s been “translated” for them as a gay-bash bill.
I do not know whether to laugh, or to cry!
Most Christians wouldn’t do that.
Though they might put some gospel verse leaflets in the cake, or even on the pan under the cake. There’s more than one way to turn a demonic lemon into gospel lemonade.
- the minority of homosexuals have now overturned the 1st Amendment
- the minority of homosexuals have now overturned the 1st Amendment
ping, thank you
At least, attempted to.
If this thing boils up to the USSC we might get a conservative read in favor of the 1st Amendment. Might.
“This thing” meaning the various laws which have presumed to require a bakery to create a specially designed/inscribed cake for a kind of ceremony they disagree with.
- I recall that some years ago one of the US Supreme Court Justices commented that if and when government and the judiciary goes beyond a yellow line in the snow that Amerivcan citizens will simply start disregarding and ignoring most of the existing laws to suit their personal wants and needs.
- Much as Cokehead B. Hussein Obama Jnior and Attorney Generral Eric Holder have done and will continue to do :
“If you like to ignore the US Constitution - You can ignore the US Constitution - PERIOD!”
Yes, when the government becomes a laughingstock, the choices are few and stark. To be a tyranny or to dissolve away and allow anarchy. Or, if sufficient forces can be raised, to be supplanted in a revolution.
The early Christian beginnings of the country were a helpful bulwark against such laughingstock status, as there was a wide, biblically educated consensus about what governments ought to be doing. Now our dear liberals openly strive for it to be a laughingstock, and conservatives can’t even agree on the goal because they’re shooting from the hip and not from an educated understanding of God’s will.
The gospel still holds hope for a relatively bloodless resolution, but it has to be accepted for its own sake, not for the sake of mere politics.
Agreed. We are fighting illegal, unconstitutional action by the government. We are demanding our God-given (not man-given) rights to life, liberty, and pursuits and adherence to the Constitution which protects those rights and is the ONLY basis of federal government authority. WE are in the right in this fight against a rouge government. THE GOVERNMENT is in the wrong. That should help give us boldness to fight.
It's a pleasure to do a small service for those who also serve (and I've worked with EOD guys, so I know how much you do).
More accurately, petty tyrants have forced the 1st Amendment out of the courts. Good will still win. I've read at least a symbolic description of the ending in the Bible, and while it's not pretty, we do win. But this phase will be uglier than necessary. We are commanded by a higher power than the Diversity Police not to surrender to demands that cross the line:
"Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's."
It is quite clear whether the free exercise of religion is among "the (few) things that are Caesar's" or one of "the (many) things that are God's".
I certainly stand with the Idea you shouldnt have to serve them if you dont want. But there are other ways to avoid situations like this and a lot of people having doing things like that a long time.
About 10 years ago I was told a business in Virginia could refuse to serve anyone they wanted. Not sure if that was right, but the person should have known.
I certainly stand with the Idea you shouldnt have to serve them if you dont want. But there are other ways to avoid situations like this and a lot of people having doing things like that a long time.
About 10 years ago I was told a business in Virginia could refuse to serve anyone they wanted. Not sure if that was right, but the person should have known.
Exactly. Brewer had to weigh ...let’s see....Superbowl..or moral convictions??? Which is more important to her. That was easy wasn’t it?
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