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State Senator Al Melvin didn't much excel on his debating team in school. Anderson Cooper's question was awkwardly phrased in pigeon-holing the Senator on a question that someone a bit more astute, alert and on the ball would never have allowed themselves to appear as dim-witted as the Senator.

The CNN host asked him to describe an example where religious people had suffered persecution as a result of being prevented from discriminating against gays and lesbians.

It certainly is a protection of religious freedom, when depraved news anchors like Cooper, offend the very religious sensibilities of people like Cooper. I mean, the very fact is religious people do suffer persecution to a degree, being castigated and worse for their beliefs from the left, and people like Cooper. But, he didn't even have to rely on just such an argument. Certainly others more adept, skillful at political rhetoric than Mr. Melvin here, would have have deployed some political rope-a-dope that would not have given Cooper such an overwhelming cheap victory.

Another very poorly phrased comment was Melvin's insistence that he didn't know anybody in Arizona who would discriminate against a "fellow human being." Saying it's not a matter of discriminating against another human being is a tough one to call, for Mr. Melvin.

1 posted on 02/26/2014 9:18:20 AM PST by lbryce
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Another case of the el stupid party running amok. WHY would you go onto this nothing T.V. network to debate a raging homo on this? What possible benefit could be gained? It’s like the GOP going on MSLSD. why?


2 posted on 02/26/2014 9:21:45 AM PST by Viennacon
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Anderson Blooper, CNN’s resident sodomite “destroying” someone over their religious views? I needed a good laugh this morning.


3 posted on 02/26/2014 9:22:48 AM PST by NKP_Vet (“From man’s sweat and God’s love, beer came into the world.” – St. Arnold of Metz)
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religious people had suffered persecution as a result of being prevented from discriminating against gays and lesbians.

I'm inclined to opine that Cooper knows of (and approves of) the threats against wedding photographers and bakeries who were faced with losing their business permits if they did not service pervert couples.

But what can anyone expect form the slimeballs at CNN?

4 posted on 02/26/2014 9:24:06 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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the AZ state rep needed this:

Issue Analysis: Arizona Bill Does Not Give Businesses License to Discriminate Against Gays [Truth!]

from: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3127170/posts


5 posted on 02/26/2014 9:26:46 AM PST by Wuli
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This whole damn thing started because that bakery refused to make a wedding cake for a gay couple, and their right to refuse that service was attacked viciously. Am I wrong on this one?


6 posted on 02/26/2014 9:28:05 AM PST by Durbin
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I could have answered that question with ease. Several examples are available which Cooper and the Senator are no doubt aware. Which leads one to wonder what is up with the senator....


7 posted on 02/26/2014 9:29:35 AM PST by TheDon (Californians are losing their right to keep and bear firearms one firearm at a time.)
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8 posted on 02/26/2014 9:32:15 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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Not hard to tell where young Master Giurato's proclivities lie.

9 posted on 02/26/2014 9:33:24 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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I would have asked Cooper, “The government forced a bakery to bake a wedding cake for a gay wedding when it clearly violated that baker’s principles. Would you have the government force a black bakery to bake a cake for a Klan rally?”


11 posted on 02/26/2014 9:37:51 AM PST by MNnice
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Business Insider’s main editor is gay, so don’t expect an unbiased article from them.


12 posted on 02/26/2014 9:39:08 AM PST by aimhigh
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He should have told Anderson Pooper that the bill wasn’t about stopping Religious persecution in AZ, it is about PREVENTING it from starting, like it has in other states!


16 posted on 02/26/2014 9:43:53 AM PST by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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A city in Philadelphia, I think. Just passed a law banning guns made in a 3-D printer. When asked if there is a current problem with crimes being committed using them or the like. The mayor said, ‘No, just staying ahead of the problem.’
The media had no problem with that....
19 posted on 02/26/2014 9:58:06 AM PST by ArtDodger
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"But you can't cite one example where religious freedom is under attack in Arizona," said Cooper.

"Really? Discrimination doesn't exist in Arizona?" Cooper asked incredulously.

Sounds to me like Cooper destroyed himself with this contradiction.

21 posted on 02/26/2014 9:59:53 AM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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There are more people commenting on this thread than there are actually watching Anderson Poofter on CNN.


27 posted on 02/26/2014 10:17:02 AM PST by jospehm20
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How about this scenario...a gay person owns a fabric store and the KKK walks in and wants to purchase some white fabric. The gay store owner doesn’t want to sell the fabric to the KKK. Who would Anderson Cooper defend..the KKK or the gay store owner?


29 posted on 02/26/2014 10:21:21 AM PST by CheathamCountyTN
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So if a school shooting occurs In Colorado, liberals in Connecticut can’t legitimately pass laws to prevent the same thing happening there...?

Can Cooper deny that business owners have been sued by gays when the refusal of service was because of religious beliefs?

Can Cooper deny that many homosexuals were sexually abused as children, or that homosexuality is closely linked with pedophilia, or that anal sex is filthy and spreads diseases, from bladder and prostate infections to AIDS?

Can Cooper deny that gay marriage essentially changes the definition of marriage that dates back to the dawn of civilization, and that the ancient definition has great moral and religious significance that should not be tread on viciously by hedonistic pop culture?

Pass the law Arizona. Help lead civilization back from the abyss.


34 posted on 02/26/2014 10:33:35 AM PST by pallis
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Will someone please explain to me how a muzzie who because of religious beliefs, as a cab driver refuses to transport alcohol, a passenger who has been drinking, as a checkout clerk refuses to handle pork or alcohol, etc.


42 posted on 02/26/2014 10:46:24 AM PST by SgtHooper (If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.)
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Brett LoGiurato

Business Insider Forced to Apologize for Falsely Claiming RNC Chairman Thinks Mitt Romney Is Racist

August 17, 2013

Liberal media bias can turn up in some very unlikely places. One example of this concept is an article on the Business Insider website in which Republican National Committee chairman Reince Priebus was quoted as saying that the concept of illegal immigrants “self-deporting” back to their native countries — as proposed by 2012 GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney — was “racist.”

Soon after, the following message was added at the top of Brett LoGiurato’s article: “An original version of this story said that Reince Priebus referred to Mitt Romney’s comments as “racist.” He said it “hurts us.” Business Insider regrets the error.”

http://newsbusters.org/people-and-organizations/brett-logiurato#ixzz2uSI6F4rN


43 posted on 02/26/2014 10:46:30 AM PST by kcvl
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Dear Anderson Cooper, here is your example...as if you didn’t already know about it, or should have known about it. It was on Fox NEWS!

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The Bureau of Labor and Industries released a statement on the matter, noting that the lesbian couple in question, Rachel Cryer and Laurel Bowman, had filed an official complaint with the government under the Oregon Equality Act of 2007 — a law that protects gays and lesbians using public venues.

“Under Oregon law, Oregonians may not be denied service based on sexual orientation or gender identity,” read the release. “The law provides an exemption for religious organizations and schools, but does not allow private business owners to discriminate based on sexual orientation, just as they cannot legally deny service based on race, sex, age, disability or religion.”

The next step in the ongoing case will be for the Klein family and Cryer and Bowman to try and come to a settlement. If that is not achieved, then “the bureau may bring formal charges and move the issue to BOLI’s Administrative Prosecution Unit, responsible for processing contested civil rights division cases pursuant to the Administrative Procedures Act (APA) and BOLI contested case hearing rules.”

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/01/20/state-rules-oregon-bakery-that-refused-to-make-a-gay-wedding-cake-violated-lesbian-couples-civil-rights/


47 posted on 02/26/2014 10:49:56 AM PST by kcvl
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The exchange is an excellent example of two people focusing on an irrelevant issue. The essential issue is whether anyone should be forced to do business with someone, whose conduct--even on the subject of the very contact involved--is considered morally reprehensible.

What sort of a totalitarian is Anderson Cooper, if he believes that once free Americans should be forced to do business under those conditions? Can you imagine what the brave men who forged our institutions would have had to say about this? Would any of them have tolerated this incursion against personal freedom--the freedom not to be forced to violate one's beliefs--the right to be left alone?

Refusing to do business does not equate to overt action. It does not wrong anyone. The Left has been trying to recondition us over this sort of thing, since the 1940s--pushing the envelope, every further. But enough is enough.

William Flax

49 posted on 02/26/2014 10:51:26 AM PST by Ohioan
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