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To: Jim Robinson
California Democrats don't give a dam

Oh yes they do, they want the land for their buddies in the development business and those buying ag land abroad. They want the Central Valley out of business. They don't want America to be self-sustaining in food production. I saw this coming nearly five years ago.

George Miller is foisting the setup for his globalist buddies in the real estate business to get cheap water for the cities they're going to build. This will work just like BART did in the Bay Area. You can bet that the first farmers to feel the heat will be those with a site for a potential insta-city near a station for the "maglev" (massive subsidy #2). The goal is a Central Valley that has a large population but grows no food, a chain of Sustained Developments, each with a transportation/utility jugular that is effectively a gun to the people's heads. Oh but they'll get lots of "Nature" all around them (aka "no man's land"). It'll be paradise! (cough!) All they need is customers. No problemo.

The key fact is that water is more valuable for development than it is for agriculture. As long as that is true the crooks in the "investment" business are going to tweak things against farming. They're "investing" in farming overseas in "places more appropriate for farming (see "comparative advantage" and "free trade"). So they get the trade agreements they want, push those annoying owners off their land, so that they come running to cities, including here, looking to be the customer base for their housing. That they'll subsidize exactly the same way they are doing now using your tax dollars to feed, clothe, educate, and medicate their brainwashed children up to speed, you know, until things are "fair." They'll make better slaves because they already know the score. Americans are too deluded with relic ideas of "freedom" to be quite as useful.

You really didn't think that Democrats like Pat and Jerry were going to let the "wrong people" make money did you? They got the farmers to pony up the cash for the construction of this massive investment subsidy (the California Water Project), by teasing them into salivating at a profit in real estate. They got the farmers to pay for the infrastructure and let them hold the bag until the big boys saw the right time. They had to wait until they were finished building out the desert anyway. The recession plus the idiot voters wishing up a passenger train boondoggle presents exactly such an opportunity.

Smelt, smelt, oh no, the smelt are dying... uh, the farmers are still hanging on... Oh steelhead, salmon, oh the humanity!!! (they're more photogenic anyway.) So it goes. I'll bet whoever wrote that biological opinion will end up running a lab.

29 posted on 06/09/2009 7:27:54 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Schwarzenkaiser, fashionable fascism one charade at a time.)
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So it goes.

The biggest developer of Sustainable Development "stack and pack" housing is Catellus Development, aka ChiFi's husband Richard Blum. The biggest stockholder in Catellus is CalPERS. The left is leveraging public pension money to build prison-cities, with the bureaucrats enforcing the means to force people out of suburbs having their pensions tied to the success of that effort, else the taxpayers have to pony up to pay for said inflated pensions.

Quite the deal.

35 posted on 02/22/2014 1:33:26 PM PST by Carry_Okie (Islam offers us three choices: Defeat them utterly, die, or surrender to a life of slavery.)
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To: Carry_Okie

Do you have links/posts/etc that you could collate into a resource? Your hypothesis sounds tyrannical and draconian... and all too likely, given the fascist tendencies of the American Left.


37 posted on 02/22/2014 2:25:42 PM PST by snowrip (Liberal? You are a socialist idiot with no rational argument.)
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To: Carry_Okie
Sounds totally logical.

When I read what's in the $800B "stimulus" when ObaMao came into office, I saw $40B for electronic medical records. I remember thinking "what the heck, there aren't even laws and standards in place to allow proper interaction". Then, along came ObamaCare! Viola, the puzzle was complete.

The maglev train indicates there is a plan for this area that is way beyond taking a few gamblers to Las Vegas...

64 posted on 02/24/2014 9:55:16 AM PST by uncommonsense (Liberals see what they believe; Conservatives believe what they see.)
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To: Carry_Okie
enforcing the means to force people out of suburbs

A LOT of farmers got FORCED out of their land in Sochi to build the Olympic stuff.

I wonder if they were properly compensated...?

71 posted on 02/24/2014 3:20:13 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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