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To: Freelance Warrior

Gross misinterpretation of events and undercurrents in Ukraine. It is surely not black-and-white, Pat Buchanan is correct here, but the rest is pure speculation. Almost every dictator in history had some legitimacy, which never prevented them from committing heinous crimes. People of Ukraine rebelled against institutionalized corruption becoming norm just like in neighboring Russia. The only reason this revolution was not drowned in blood, is that mobsters in power sensed the magnitude of popular resentment and were trying to preserve their hides.


4 posted on 02/21/2014 8:09:46 AM PST by Samogon (Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something. - Plato)
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To: Samogon
but the rest is pure speculation. Almost every dictator in history had some legitimacy

Buchanan has written some specific facts about the Ukrainian president's actions. They're not at all dictatorial, so Yanukovich is not a dictator. If he has lied you can denounce them one by one.

5 posted on 02/21/2014 8:19:14 AM PST by Freelance Warrior (A Russian.)
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To: Samogon

It interests me that a man named Patrick Buchanan apparently does not see the parallels between England-Ireland and Russia-Ukraine. Foreign power imposes control by imperial conquest, exploits natural resources, impoverishes and decimates indigenous population through terror-famine and massive emigration, settles people of their different culture and religion in positions of power, better jobs, etc., and wonders why the locals are “disloyal” after all they’ve done for them. Over time the imports and their descendants think they are natives, but memories are long. Force is required to maintain control. Yes it is a complex situation, with a lot more in play than a protest against corruption.


21 posted on 02/21/2014 10:26:57 AM PST by Chewbarkah
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>>>People of Ukraine rebelled against institutionalized corruption becoming norm just like in neighboring Russia.<<<

You might be kidding here. Russian corruption is nowhere near Ukrainian level. Just visit one country and another. In Russia they have a vibrant middle class, while in the Ukraine there are a few rich officials and their cronies and the rest of the country are ox and cart. If you are lazy to visit, at least compare average incomes or GDP per capita figures.


25 posted on 02/21/2014 10:54:03 AM PST by cunning_fish
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