Off Grid Attack: EPA To Outlaw Many Wood Burning Stoves

Off Grid Survival ^ | Jan 7 | Rob Richardson

[xzins]

Our ever so helpful government has decided that your wood burning stove is now a danger to the world. In another attempt to outlaw the off grid lifestyle, the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), the same agency that was recently caught using drones to spy on Americans, is now going after home owners who use Wood Burning Stoves to heat their homes.

Shortly after the re-election of President Obama, the agency announced new radical environmental regulations that threaten to effect people who live off the grid. The EPA’s new environmental regulations reduce the amount of airborne fine-particle matter from 15 micrograms to 12 micrograms per cubic meter of air.

This means that most wood burning stoves would now fall into a class that would deemed unacceptable under these new draconian measures. The EPA has even launched a nifty new website called burn wise to try to sway public opinion.

On their site, while trying to convince people to get rid of their old stoves and buy the new EPA-certified stoves, they state that these older stove must be scraped and cannot be resold.

From the EPA Site:

The local air pollution agency says I can’t sell my old wood stove to help pay for an EPA-certified wood stove. Why is that? Replacing an older stove with a cleaner-burning stove will not improve air quality if the older stove is reused somewhere else. For this reason, wood stove change out programs usually require older stoves to be destroyed and recycled as scrap metal, or rendered inoperable.

Let’s hope this doesn’t fall under the jurisdiction of the newly created Department of Homeland Security Environmental Justice Units? The next thing you know we might all be getting a knock at the door….. Your Neighbor reported that you might be burning some wood, do you mind if we take a look around?

[diamond6]

What happens?

[JimRed]

AFAIK, this rule isn't about CO2, it's about 2.5micron particulate emissions.

Gee, I think we used to call that "smoke", didn't we?

[xzins]

All the power plant workers in S. Ohio can’t stand him. They are coal fired, and he’s seriously threatening their jobs.

[RedMonqey]

Thoroughly dried wood burns hotter and with less smoke, but the time (or money) required to have it is counter-productive for those who work for a living.

Burning, uncured, green wood in a wood store or brick fireplace creates a layer of cresote that, if left unremoved, can catch fire within the flue and burn your house down.

It takes no more effort to cut and burn dried wood but you do have to the work ahead of time(we cut our own off our farm woods) and do it at the end of summer, beginning of fall.

We have several cords laid up in our woodshedfcor the winter. Beginners can use a good tarp if not prepared for cost of building a proper shed, just keep if it out of the weather.

Buying wood takes time too, if you wait til the snow starts flying, you will pay preium prices(from people like us) who did the work ahead of time

We use a mix of dried wood with a stick or two of relatively green at nighttime to keep the fire going til morning .

And we always have the flues professional cleaned befory burning season begins...

[xzins]

I agree that the system does have more control the more you’re grid-dependent. Also, self preservation should make us all think of backup systems in the event the grid fries.

[Viking2002]

After I just installed it and I'm getting my firewood for $70 a cord?

Molon labe, EnviroStasi.

[xzins]

My furnace is outdoors, so I don’t have creosote concerns.

Now, it’s not the best to use green wood. But the new standard of moisture that I’ve read about says you cut it, let it sit a year, and then the 2nd year it’s at that moisture content. I ain’t got no time for that.

If I cut in the spring, I want to use it starting that fall.

[JimRed]

Then they will be at your door with warrant in hand and a dozen storm troopers.

The reply I wrote for this and then deleted might get me banned or suspended (violence) so I won't mention IEDs...

[tomkat]

so did the Nazi Surveillance Agency

[xzins]

I can’t imagine them not grandfathering already existing wood burners, but you never know about these people.

My guess is that the particulate removes they add can be easily removed.

[RedMonqey]

One of the few pleasures a country affords even its poorest, a right to huddle around a campfire or old stove, snatched away..

I love the smell of red oak burning in the morning...

Smells like....freedom!!!

(I truly do love the smell of dried oak burning in our inset stove....ahh the simple pleasures are the best!!)

[JimRed]

It’s time to out these EPA tyrants — names, home addresses, telephone numbers.

With special emphasis on those who GIVE THEM THEIR ORDERS.

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More than likely, these new regs can be used as a pretext for a fleet of dark vehicles filled with body-armor buddies to inspect rural homes if and when tptb feel the need for such inspections.

[no-to-illegals]

I agree backup systems are necessary. Have a few backups. Backup plans are always necessary. A must have is plan a, plan b, plan c and finally plan d. obama can go to Hades!

[no-to-illegals]

Believe it or not ... when zer0’s convention was held in Charlotte. duke energy was one of his main supporters. Turned my stomach.

[yefragetuwrabrumuy]

Tea Party priority.

The EPA delenda est.

The EPA in its current form must be destroyed, and those employees involved in its totalitarian schemes must not only be fired, but banned from future government employment, as well as prohibiting any company that hires them from future government contracts.

They have effectively made themselves personna non grata, as much as if they were discovered to belong to a neo-Nazi organization. Their actions are incompatible with US government service.

And no, that they “were only following orders” is no excuse.

[Viking2002]

The bastards can come remove the particulates themselves, as far as I'm concerned. I'm through kowtowing to eco-fascists.

[RedMonqey]

But the new standard of moisture that I’ve read about says you cut it, let it sit a year

Forgot to mention that...

Unless it's been an unusally long winter(like this one), we have wood from the previous season that allows this years cut to season.

The reason we cut in the late summer/ early fall is planting/ harvesting takes precedent and we begin cutting after the crops are in... And it's too d@@#ed hot to cut wood in the middle of July/ lol

Outside furnace?

Aren't you losing alot of radiant heat to the elements?

[Salamander]

They have become omnipresent and ubiquitous.

The new normal.

Big Brutha really *is* watching.

When he wants to come for us, he will.

Neither our silence or our innocence will protect us.

[who knows what evil?]

Neither our silence or our innocence will protect us.

Been there, done that.