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Off Grid Attack: EPA To Outlaw Many Wood Burning Stoves
Off Grid Survival ^ | Jan 7 | Rob Richardson

Posted on 02/19/2014 12:43:09 PM PST by xzins

Our ever so helpful government has decided that your wood burning stove is now a danger to the world. In another attempt to outlaw the off grid lifestyle, the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), the same agency that was recently caught using drones to spy on Americans, is now going after home owners who use Wood Burning Stoves to heat their homes.

Shortly after the re-election of President Obama, the agency announced new radical environmental regulations that threaten to effect people who live off the grid. The EPA’s new environmental regulations reduce the amount of airborne fine-particle matter from 15 micrograms to 12 micrograms per cubic meter of air.

This means that most wood burning stoves would now fall into a class that would deemed unacceptable under these new draconian measures. The EPA has even launched a nifty new website called burn wise to try to sway public opinion.

On their site, while trying to convince people to get rid of their old stoves and buy the new EPA-certified stoves, they state that these older stove must be scraped and cannot be resold.

From the EPA Site:

The local air pollution agency says I can’t sell my old wood stove to help pay for an EPA-certified wood stove. Why is that? Replacing an older stove with a cleaner-burning stove will not improve air quality if the older stove is reused somewhere else. For this reason, wood stove change out programs usually require older stoves to be destroyed and recycled as scrap metal, or rendered inoperable.

Let’s hope this doesn’t fall under the jurisdiction of the newly created Department of Homeland Security Environmental Justice Units? The next thing you know we might all be getting a knock at the door….. Your Neighbor reported that you might be burning some wood, do you mind if we take a look around?


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KEYWORDS: dsj; energy; epa; selfsufficiency; tyranny
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To: Salamander
</dinner break>

Well darlin', this whole mortality thing strikes me as havin' been rigged to begin with anyway.

But hopefully they won't swoop til after <girls curling semi-finals>

lol .. cheers !

121 posted on 02/19/2014 3:37:02 PM PST by tomkat
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To: ctdonath2

So build a brick one with metal parts where needed. Easy enough IMO and cheaper than buying one IMO.


122 posted on 02/19/2014 3:37:28 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: MeanWestTexan

I have ....... I’m still waiting.


123 posted on 02/19/2014 3:52:02 PM PST by snooter55 (People may doubt what you say, but they will always believe what you do)
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To: xzins

First they ban Edison (lightbulbs) and now Franklin (wood stoves).


124 posted on 02/19/2014 4:13:44 PM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: A CA Guy

Ya kinda missed the point. The number of people willing to build a wood stove are vanishingly small compared to those who want one and would buy one if still legal.

The Left has learned to be content with a few hardcore dissidents if the vast majority can be deterred from “undesirable” behavior.


125 posted on 02/19/2014 4:17:19 PM PST by ctdonath2 (Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.)
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To: xzins

Makes me want to get two oil drums and make a stove to heat my North Dakota home.


126 posted on 02/19/2014 4:27:42 PM PST by Lion Den Dan
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To: Basil Duke

My buddy has a hunting camp at higher elevation in upstate NY with a huge wood stove welded from 1/4 inch scrap plate steel. Couple of iron hinges weld in place make for a door. Places goes from 20 degrees to sweating in one hour.


127 posted on 02/19/2014 4:30:10 PM PST by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: RipSawyer

I crack the doors a couple inches...works for me!!!


128 posted on 02/19/2014 4:31:51 PM PST by ontap
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To: AdamBomb

thank you! I am BUYING that one!


129 posted on 02/19/2014 4:34:04 PM PST by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period.)
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To: xzins

This is utter nonsense.

The smoke from just one of the wild fires that are cause by the failure to properly harvest and clear our forests will be greater than all of the wood stoves in the country could make in a century.
.


130 posted on 02/19/2014 4:39:53 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: xzins

If I’m not mistaken, a rain drop cannot form unless it starts to condense on a particle of dust or ash.


131 posted on 02/19/2014 4:58:19 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: tomkat

Oh, yeah.

Wouldn’t wanna miss *that* adrenaline rush.

;]


132 posted on 02/19/2014 4:59:15 PM PST by Salamander (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: RedMonqey

My outdoor furnace heats a blanket of water around the fire chamber, pumps the water underground to a heat exchange in my backup furnace vent system and then blows it throughout the house. One of the outside lines goes to my water heater and heats the water, and another to a separate building we have and heats it. It’s pulling quite a load really. Like any woodburning system, it loses heat up the smokestack, but it’s a long burn chamber so a huge amount of the heat directly heats the water.


133 posted on 02/19/2014 5:23:09 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Salamander
No sarcasm tag needed on that one, missy !

d:^P

134 posted on 02/19/2014 5:24:56 PM PST by tomkat
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To: Defiant

Thanks for the link.With 262 videos I’m going to be busy for a while.we have so much wood available on the farm plus my Amish friends operate a sawmill and sell slabwood to us really cheap.When I cut and stack it,a cord costs us about 18 bucks.


135 posted on 02/19/2014 5:39:34 PM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: xzins
One of the outside lines goes to my water heater and heats the water, and another to a separate building we have and heats it.

Thank you for your response, I've never heard of that kind of furnace, at least an outdoor one.

Since it, is in essence an water heater, would it be possible to tap into it for a a small amout of water for bathing purposes? .

Not a bathtub of course but enough for miminal needs in case of power failure..

Back in '73 and again in '77 our power was out for about a week b/c of ice storms and during the day we cooked our meals upon the stand alone wood store we had then and put big pots of water to heat overnight and use it to wash, just enough to keep the stink down a bit.

Our insert stove(with blowers) we have now does a good job of heating the house but it's top doesn't have the space to put a good sized pot upon. Just a few smaller pots to heat the frank and beans and an old coffee percolator...

Just wondering, always open to a better option.
136 posted on 02/19/2014 5:58:55 PM PST by RedMonqey ("Gun-free zones" equal "Target-rich environment.")
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

bookmark


137 posted on 02/19/2014 6:12:54 PM PST by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: Farmer Dean

I have the same situation. I have tons of wood available, and I just wish I had this guy’s expertise. He can run a gas generator on a wood burning stove! He had one video where he coiled some copper wire in a bucket, buried it under the ground, and was getting current out of it. Not a ton of current, but it was a start.


138 posted on 02/19/2014 6:20:03 PM PST by Defiant (Let the Tea Party win, and we will declare peace on the American people and go home.)
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To: mountainlion

Lopi


139 posted on 02/19/2014 6:22:22 PM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: AU72
“So are they going to hire an army of EPA deputies to charge out into the backwoods looking for tell-tale smoke?
That won't end well.”

They're going to have to hire a huge number of EPA goons to go into the woods. These tender feet are going to disappear into the great American wilderness after the locals apply the 3S System to them. [3S System = shoot, shovel, shut-up.]

Amazing how all these EPA thugs disappear isn't it? i wonder...hmmmm.

140 posted on 02/19/2014 6:32:02 PM PST by MasterGunner01
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