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Don't we have the technology to detect shallow waters?
1 posted on 02/18/2014 1:12:29 PM PST by gandalftb
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2 posted on 02/18/2014 1:14:46 PM PST by stormer
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JFK said only schmucks ran their ships aground. /s


3 posted on 02/18/2014 1:14:59 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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I have a feeling we’ll see one or more people being relieved of duty in the near future.


4 posted on 02/18/2014 1:16:38 PM PST by DemforBush (A Repo Man is *always* intense.)
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Don't we have the technology to detect shallow waters?

Maybe the ship recently HAD it, but doesn't anymore?

6 posted on 02/18/2014 1:17:21 PM PST by stboz
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Must really suck to have your career plans flash before your eyes when you felt that “thump”.


7 posted on 02/18/2014 1:17:28 PM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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Isn’t the Captain automatically relieved of command over something like this?


8 posted on 02/18/2014 1:17:53 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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Clear evidence of a purge of the military. The Captain of the Taylor is yet another victim of the Obama Administration. /Sarc. Actually the Navy takes a very dim view of Skippers who park their ships on solid ground, it’s a career ending incident.


9 posted on 02/18/2014 1:18:19 PM PST by centurion316
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10 posted on 02/18/2014 1:18:45 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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The Capt.. didnt run aground THE CREW DID... (most likely)..


13 posted on 02/18/2014 1:25:40 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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17th Cmdr will probably be looking for a new position maybe
even outside the navy in the near future.

17.) 13 Nov. 2012 - Cmdr. Dennis J. Volpe (Long Island, N.Y.)

http://www.navsource.org/archives/07/0750.htm


16 posted on 02/18/2014 1:30:38 PM PST by deport
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Putin didn’t even let them moor at Sochi.

To be decommissioned in 2015.


17 posted on 02/18/2014 1:34:54 PM PST by Ready4Freddy
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Glad it wasn’t interpreted as hostile action.


26 posted on 02/18/2014 1:58:49 PM PST by informavoracious (Open your eyes, people!)
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Charts out of date? Or helmsman a touch too slow/fast on the “right full rudder”?


27 posted on 02/18/2014 2:00:44 PM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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Diversity training and protecting the rights of gay Americans is much more important in today’s Navy than something like seamanship.


31 posted on 02/18/2014 2:16:30 PM PST by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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“Well, that was a great career.”


33 posted on 02/18/2014 2:24:21 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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Well there is one rope choker who is about to lose his job.
And rightly so.


34 posted on 02/18/2014 2:26:34 PM PST by mort56
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The U.S. Navy inherit most of their traditions from the Royal Navy. The commissioning document for a naval officer is an instructive example. A commission in the British Army was once governed by purchase, influence, and social rank and was peppered with phrases from the Sovereign referring to “my dearly beloved cousin”, faithful, etc. etc. The Navy commission was very different. Though social rank and influence were important, Naval officers were held to very strict standards in the execution of their duties and handling of their ships. This from 1800:

By the Commissioners for executing the Office of the Lord High Admiral of Great Britain and Ireland &c and of all His Majesty’s Plantations &c.

To Lieut. ..... hereby appointed Lieutenant of His Majesty’s Ship the.......

By Virtue of the Power and Authority to us given We do hereby constitute and appoint you Lieutenant of His Majesty’s Ship the ..... willing and requiring you forthwith to go on board and take upon you the Charge and Command of Lieutenant in her accordingly. Strictly Charging and Commanding all the Officers and Company belonging to the said ship subordinate to you to behave themselves jointly and severally in their respective Employments with all the Respect and Obedience unto you their said Lieutenant; And you likewise to observe and execute as well the General printed Instructions as what Orders and Directions you shall from time to time receive from your Captain or any other your superior Officers for His Majesty’s service. Hereof nor you nor any of you may fail as you will answer the contrary at your peril. And for so doing this shall be your Warrant. Given under our hands and the Seal of the Office Admiralty this ..... day of ....., ..... in the ..... Year of His Majesty’s Reign.

By Command of their Lordships

The U.S. Navy had the same attitude and still does.


36 posted on 02/18/2014 2:51:46 PM PST by centurion316
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Hopefully it won't be too rough on who-ever's overall career.

They were in short water, preparing to moor. And not all groundings are the same. Bumping up and into a mud bank isn't quite the same as on some well charted rock, or gross negligence in navigation & operations.

Not a uniformed navy story, but while employed on a trawler on the West Coast, when swinging a wide circle to approach a particular wharf nearer to the back-end of the bay (vessels of the draft I was on, not being able to go much further than the proximity we were at, the channel going on from there not having been dredged since WWII) the boat owner bumped the boat onto a 'bar' of mud. Being able to back off of it -- what did he do, but instead off backing far enough away to be able to then go forward, powering around to turn the boat, runs all but straight back up into the groove we'd just been able to back out of.

When we got to the dock and were passing lines over to a couple of guys who had seen the whole thing (one guy --an old salt who owned the wharf) I had a paper bag over my head "the unknown crewman". Me? You didn't see me on this boat.

Coming out of the wheelhouse, the boat owner saw me in the get up and laughed. He was a good guy that way, even if the joke was on him, he could see the humor.

43 posted on 02/18/2014 3:17:59 PM PST by BlueDragon
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you would think so.

Plus... I bet we just upgraded our undersea map of the Black Sea


47 posted on 02/18/2014 4:54:41 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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The finest tobacco grown comes from this region. Black Sea Samsun Turkish... The crop must be in serious jeopardy! SARC>


55 posted on 02/18/2014 11:19:20 PM PST by Birdsbane ("Onward through the fog!" ... Oat Willie)
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