Both wrong. You can read my comments on what a poseur know-nothing Bill Nye is going back many years, and my posts on Bill Nye about this debate go back to the day it was announced.
well, Miggie says calling someone a liberal is a nasty slight. As to the explanation Dr. Schroeder gives, I notice you do exactly what you insult others for, you do not refute what he explains, you just use the mormonesque tactic of claiming it has been refuteds many times (and yes, that too is an insult, to infer you are using a mormonesque technique so I’ll apologize right here if you’re not a Mormon or ex-mormon).