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To: Jacquerie; Las Vegas Ron

And I’m sure George Soros wants the same Constitution that would come out of an Article V as the founders would have, right? Strange bedfellows indeed. No, Soros likes the idea because he sees it as a chance to wipe us out, once and for all.

I do not disagree with the need for something major needing to be done to get us to the founding principles. As Las Vegas Ron points out, what assurances do we have the newly formed government wouldn’t weasel around the new document? It will be the same bunch of lawyers weaseling the document we have now. I suppose we could write in a clause that all current office-holders are forbidden to occupy positions in the new government, but they are like teeth on a shark: A newer, deadlier row of them are line up right behind the ones presently in use.

Probability of achieving what we need to do? Pretty slight, but then the odds have been against us from the Founding, so what’s new?


14 posted on 02/02/2014 10:39:13 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Cyber Liberty
The states are very aware of what ails our republic. They endure it from both ends. They have pissant bureaucrats from DC pushing them and their constituents around. Said constituents complain to state reps who have no ability to correct the problem.

Nothing is guaranteed, but I know that over half the states filed suit against Obamacare. AZ was told it couldn't defend its southern border. States around the nation are so much as told not to identify voters. The media purposely avoid our nascent resistance movement. Good. Let it build below the national radar.

So I believe the states know they can perhaps regain the power taken away from them 101 years ago. I doubt the states will dance around the edges, for structural reforms are needed and they know it, regardless of party.

Structural changes, like repeal of the 17th cannot be ignored.

If, as you predict, the states will weasel around amendments, we'll be no worse off.

20 posted on 02/02/2014 10:51:12 AM PST by Jacquerie (Christianity is the heart of our culture. To destroy America, destroy Christianity.)
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To: Cyber Liberty
A new government won't come out of an Article V convention.

If 2/3ds of the state agree, an amendment can go to the states, where 3/4 have to ratify it before it becomes part of the Constitution.

/johnny

21 posted on 02/02/2014 10:54:05 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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